whatever happened to - Camergirl21?

my2monkeyboys wrote: As posted, anyone know where she went? It seems like it's been at least 6 months since I've seen her on here.

mckayleesmom replied: not sure

grapfruit replied: If you remember back there was a post that turned nasty and she was suspended for 30 days. It really hurt her feelings and she decided not to come back I really liked her, so I was sad about it. She felt she was suspended unjustly.

Sam & Abby's Mom replied:
Wow -- I had no idea. Which thread was it,,,or is it a no-no to talk about it?

jcc64 replied: Her absence, as was stated already, is a function of her not feeling welcome here, which I do believe was true. I understand there was some nastiness behind the scenes of which i am blissfully unaware. But I feel her voice, however strident it was at times, was unique, and I think the board is a less interesting place w/o her, tbh. Not that we're not all fascinating people in our own right.... but I enjoyed her pictures and provocative questions.

msoulz replied:
ITA. Extremely well said. Thank you.

moped replied:
I don't think mods unjustly suspend people...

lisar replied:

kit_kats_mom replied: Right, but they are just human. Their personal opinions will come into play sometimes weather they mean them to or not.

She was suspended but there was a long discussion over it beforehand according to Jennifer. Some mods fought for her, some against her.

Some people didn't like her at all and made it a personal vendetta to get rid of her. I wish that it never came to that...reminded me of HS (which I hated) when the popular girls picked on the smart kids and got them ostracized.

ITA with Jeanne. I miss her POV and hope she chooses to join us again some time in the future.

Crystalina replied: If I knew some people didn't like me I think I'd stick around just to prove a point and leave when I was ready to.

I saw it both ways. I saw her get "picked on" (for lack of a better term that I'm sure is out there) just as much as she antagonized. I think it was 50/50 because there were times I stuck up for her and other times when I couldn't because it seemed she was looking for an argument.

I wouldn't mind her coming back.

kit_kats_mom replied: ITA Crystal. However, you can only have an argument with two people. If those who didn't agree with her, just didn't respond, then there would be no arguments KWIM? It's exactly what I'm working on with the girls right now. It takes two to tango.

Jackie012007 replied:
ITA. Jennifer was not totally innocent - I saw her both antagonize, and be picked on. Honestly I don't remember exactly what happened to get her suspended but I know she said something that was REALLY offensive to me and several other board members and I spoke to a mod about it because it really bothered me and others, but they felt they couldn't come forward. I'm not afraid to say it - and I would hope if I said something that seriously offended others here, that they would do the same.

I would welcome her back but in the same respect, not be afraid to go to a mod if she started to post offensive things again.

lisar replied:
I agree.

holley79 replied:
There is a process and lots of talk we don't know about. I trust majority of the decisions the mods and admin of this board make.

luvbug00 replied: i think though at one point or another we all have felt at odds with others, but what can one expect? we are a diverce group of people and what may rub me the wrong way might make another person feel in agreement. That being said we bumped heads and we both agreed to disagree. That's what friends do though, and move on.

MommyToAshley replied: We don't take suspending or banning anyone lightly. There was a long process, many opportunities, and a lot that went on that many of you might not be aware of. We choose not to air "the dirty laundry" and so I am sure some of you have heard only one side of the story. You know how the saying goes, "There's two sides to every story, and then somewhere in between is the truth"

Anyways, She is welcome back here as long as she follows the same rules as everyone else. I've noticed her lurking a few times late at night, and I want her to know she is welcome to join in the conversation.

Crystalina replied:
I agree!!!


I hope that anyone who I bump heads with on this or any board would understand that just because I bump heads (and I've done it on here more then once) does not in any way mean I don't like that person as a person. A member can make me want to spit nails in one thread but when I leave that thread and go immediately to another thread the person is in I can agree 100%, wish them well, tell them their kids are adorable ect, ect....I hold nothing at all personally unless someone were to attack my kids or family and that has never happened.

Bamamom replied:

again

my2monkeyboys replied: Oh wow -- I guess I was gone that day. Well, although we disagreed more than agreed I still liked to get riled up by her questions and POV and I wish she'd come back....

jcc64 replied: I think it's pretty hilarious that even a mere discussion of Jen can cause a debate around here! I think even she would appreciate the irony.

Sam & Abby's Mom replied: I think I might remember the subject of the post, now....................... I think.

PrairieMom replied: I miss her too. I agree that it takes 2 to tango, but she really was one to get people riled up. I for one enjoyed it. she had an interesting POV, but, really there has been less drama since she left.
i hope the fact that she is lurking means that maybe she will return...

Kentuckychick replied:
You are right... it was a little of both the antogonizing and the "picking on" -- including by some who've posted on this thread.

I don't think anyone here was innocent (probably including myself) when it came to the debates in the threads that she often started but I honestly remember well the final straw and the fact that I stayed completely uninvolved and thought that there were quite a few members who deserved to be suspended for a little while over the entire debacle because the posts and words being thrown back and forth were to say the least, childishly ridiculous.

It is really sad when a group of adults go onto a thread and completely bash one another and that's pretty much what happened. It's happened with others on this board as well. It so feels like being back in highschool and watching that one kid get ganged up on by the bullies sometimes.

I know it's not often the intention of the individuals involved, but there are some individuals here who could really use a lesson in letting it go. And I know that I've been there and done that to so please don't think I'm saying I'm innocent... but I have learned. Seriously, if you don't like a thread and don't want to get involved in... then don't. Simple as that.

Crystalina replied:
Whispers (((placenta))) and runs for the hills....

Sorry.

lisar replied:
I agree and by no means am I innocent. I know 100% that I was involved in alot of the conversations. Heck me and her have taken more than one coversation to PM's between the 2 of us so I have a little more to go on here on what I think. She was 100% against some things with me (I wont mention anything) and thought I was just so wrong. I dont hold it against her though. Heck I have bumped heads with alot of people on here but at the end of the day I will have learned something new, and moved on. I am not gona hold a grudge, its not my style. And there is only 1 person on here that I truly wont reply to any post they start. She knows who she is. And we have agreed to disagree and she feels the same about me. And its personal nothing that happened on here. I wouldnt have a problem with Jennifer comming back sometimes the debates that were always started were good ones and like I said before we all learnt something from them.

msoulz replied:

I think it's really sad that adults would let someone, especially a stranger, get under their skin so much as to "fight back" to the extent that someone has to be banished. I don't get it. I did not see the post in discussion but in general, why do we get so bent out of shape because someone says something that is distasteful? Especially someone who really doesn't know you? Just a though.