what do you think the deal is with Casey Anthony?

cameragirl21 wrote: Ok, so I watched a program last night, Dateline, I think, and it was about the Caylee Anthony case...very strange all around. Firstly, Casey claims she hadn't seen the child since June 8 and her parents said the same but there is footage of them together with Caylee on June 15. It's easy to say that Casey's parents know what happened but it was Casey's mom who called the cops to report that her daughter had disappeared, then turned up and the whole thing was that Casey refused to hand Caylee over to her mother so her mom called the cops. That is what started all of this. So whatever happened, it sure doesn't seem like Casey's parents were in on it.
Also, this is what totally baffles me--from what I could see, Casey seemed like she was at least a decent mother (I mean prior to killing her child )...there are pictures of her with Caylee and the affection between them seemed very obvious...what makes one go from being a good mother to...infanticide? It seems that she did searches for "neck breaking" and "chloroform" so sorry to say but that is very sinister...anyone who does an internet search for "neck breaking" should raise a milion red flags imo. The skull had traces of duct tape and there were traces of choloroform in her car so obviously something was done intentionally...it's always possible there had been an accident and someone tried to cover it up but accidents generally don't involve duct tape and choloroform.
I want to believe that maybe she's just mentally ill but if that were even a posiblity her lawyer would jump on it...that is really the only thing that can get Casey off the hook now. So if her lawyer's not pushing it then it's not the case at all. At best, she faces life in prison but the prosecutor now says they're considering seeking the death penalty. I am, in principle, totally against the death penalty but in cases like this, I might be inclined to look the other way if you kwim, this is just horrific on a level I can't even express in words...you should have heard the way she was talking (caught on tape) after she was arrested...no concern whatsoever and even when her friends showed concern.
The thing is, Casey really is a pretty girl, she has great bone structure...I know that has no bearing here but please just bear with me because as a photographer that is the first thing I notice about people. It's not to say it would be any different if she were ugly or just ordinary but when I look and see that a young, beautiful girl ruined her life and killed her own child in the process, it just seems like SUCH a terrible waste. Not that it would be any less wasteful if she weren't beautiful but I mean to say that she already had something worthy of people's envy, had a beautiful child and so much to live for...why throw it all away? And seriously, did she really hope to get away with this...what was she thinking?!
She could have left the child with her parents if she couldn't or wouldn't deal with her anymore. What do you think led her to go bad? I wonder if it's a repeat of the Susan Smith situation--where she killed the kids because her BF didn't want to deal with them?
Your thoughts? And btw, I know that no one here will have any kind words for Casey Anthony, the point is not to bash her but rather if you have an opinion on how a seemingly good mom, albeit young, goes bad? She is a very young mom but so are some of the moms here, I don't know if that is a viable excuse...? Your thoughts?

TheOaf66 replied: there are many reasons that these people flip and kill their kids. Whatever the reason it is wrong. I believe she should get put to the front of death row line. Anyone who kills a defenseless baby like that doesn't deserve to just hang out in jail.

FTR, I am in complete favor of the death penalty in any case of "intentional murder"...not talkin about like manslaughter or unintentional, just the ones who flat out kill someone just to kill. I believe in the eye for an eye

Child molesters and rapists...well they get put in prison with the people who like to have that kind of control as well and are much much bigger so they can get a taste of the treatment.

Sorry if I got off topic a bit

lisar replied: I do believe in the death penalty however I think you should be killed the same way your victim died. I think its only fair. If they suffered then the person who killed them should have to suffer. I know it sounds weird. But if Casey broke that poor helpless baby's neck then the same should be done to her. Plain and simple. I am not saying weather she is innocent or guilty however everything does point to her. And why would any mother not report her child missing? That right there says GUILTY all over it.
I do not know why a mother would turn and kill their own child. I really don't know. And for her to be all happy go lucky after her kid is missing well that just blows my mind.

msoulz replied: I saw that program too - and I wonder if Casey either has/had some kind of drug issue or she is mentally ill and hides it well. In my feeble mind, how else could someone kill a child, especially their own, then go on like nothing has happened??

And if you're going to kill someone, don't do it in Florida or Texas - that's REALLY stupid. Furthers my mentally ill theory.

Aside from the issue with evidence in Casey's trunk, and who really knows what that is we only know what they news tells us, it occurred to me as I watched that maybe someone else did do it and that made Casey flip out and pretend the girl was still alive to save her own "sanity". Yeah, it's a stretch and I am no psychologist, but stranger things have happened. Either way it goes back to something must be wrong with her.

This story both fascinates and repulses me. My daughter is a few months younger than Caylee. I get the frustrations at times - boy do I get that. I do NOT get being so frustrated that I want to harm her much less kill her. But I found myself choking back tears watching it last night as they showed that sweet little face with similar expressions and looks to my own. My eyes are filling up now . . .

cameragirl21 replied:
That is EXACTLY how I feel about this story too.
As for someone else doing it and Casey just telling herself the child is alive, well, why lie about the nonexistent babysitter, then? Or drag the cops to Universal Studios, claiming she worked there and then tell them she just thought Caylee might be there? And why did she do internet searches about neck breaking and chloroform?
It's just so odd--didn't you get the impression that all in all, she was a good mom and suddenly, it all went dark, so to speak? I'm wondering what turned off the lights in Casey's world...and Caylee's?

lisar replied:
I do get the impression that she was a good Mom before any of this. However something in her brain triggered and I wish I knew what made her do it

msoulz replied:
Yeah, I know it is a stretch. That's why it looks like something just snapped in Casey for whatever reason. It seems when you hear of children being killed, it's something "normal" like potty training accidents or crying that sets off the killer - but then it's usually mom's boyfriend or a sitter, not the parent. It will be interesting if the truth ever comes out.

But I always remember that what we see on the news is not necessarily the truth either. The police don't always disclose what they know and sometimes disclose false info. Statements can be completely taken out of context. All that jazz.

boyohboyohboy replied: I totally dont get what happened here either.
I think that its strange that she seems to hold herself together so well, at some point you would think she would crack..
I assume that anyone that has the "guts" to kill their own child then something is wrong in their head. I dont know, never will, how a mother can carry a child in her and then harm them to that extent. I mean spanking is hard for me to do, I cant imagine the horror of what she did.
I can see how she was young and wanted to do what kids her age do..wanted that freedom..and maybe she drugged her to sleep so that she could have some fun, where her mother was her sitter before and they had a fight...so she had caylee on her own, and she was cramping her style..maybe her death was an accident, but wouldnt you think disposing of her would haunt her, not send her out partying?

cameragirl21 replied:
Ok, I can understand drugging her to sleep so she could party and then there being a accident but then why the duct tape and the net searches for neck breaking? And she IS holding herself together really well, she sure doesn't seem haunted by anything or bothered. Maybe she was a great mom when here mother helped out but not suc a great mom when she had to do it all herself...?

mckayleesmom replied: I think Casey got a dose of the real world and Motherhood once she moved out. I don't think she had a clue before then. She had mommy and daddy to help her and all the sudden it wasn't as easy as she thought.

I don't think she killed Caylee on purpose believe it or not. I do think she is nuts, but I think she thought living on her own was going to be fun and partying, but you can't do that with a baby to take care of. I think the chlorophorm plays a huge role in what happened. I think Casey was drugging that baby long enough to party and be back before she woke up...I think she probably did it before only this time she either 1. Gave her too much and it killed her or 2. She was chlorophorming her and leaving her in the car while she went into bars...only she didn't realize how hot it was and the baby died from heat and being in a car.

I think she was mentally unstable to begin with and now she is just in denial.

cameragirl21 replied:
ok, I can go along with that explanation but then how do you explain the duct tape and the net searches for neck breaking? Why not just leave her with the parents? And yeah, on some level she MUST be mentally ill because no matter how much motherhood may not be for you, you don't just go and kill your child, or anyone, for that matter and just go on with life as if nothing happened. That alone makes her mentally ill imo.
I wonder if chloroform can kill in high doses? It is generally used to knock someone out.

cameragirl21 replied: I just had a thought--do you guys think it's possible she got so drunk and possibly high one night that she just doesn't remember what happened and perhaps doesn't realize that she killed Caylee?
But even if that were the case, how could she not realize that the child was no longer around? I'm having a hard time dealing with the fact that she went on unfazed, as if nothing happened.

mckayleesmom replied: I think she knows what happened, although I think she is in deep denial and if she says it out loud..then it makes it more true..


The Duct tape and neck breaking can be explained...Perhaps she was going to put her in something to bury her, but her body was too long and she was looking for ways to make it fit....Horrible thought I know.

The duct tape is even easier to explain...she might have duct taped her into a bag or box to hide the body....and even might have duct taped things to the body to weight it down into some water.

Nina J replied: I think that in photographs and videos she looked like a loving mother. But I also think photographs and videos do not properly represent what a person is like. In most of the photos and videos I have seen, they are not casual. They seem to know a camera is pointed at them, recording what they're doing. So to me, while it looks like a happy family, that may not always be the case. We have not seen what Casey was like when she was alone with Caylee, or when the cameras were switched off. If you kwim.

I do not know if she intentionally killed her daughter or not, but I believe it was her actions that ended Caylee's life.

I think she is mentally ill, she seems like a sociopath. She lies and she is so void of emotion, it is insane. She lied to boyfriends about working at Universal and going to school, she lied to the police, she lied to her family. She has not told the truth and she seems to have an absolute disregard for her child or those she is hurting. She has gone with the whole Zenaida story, but who is Zenaida? She said Zenaida lived at an apartment that was vacant for months, she said she got her number of a workmate at Universal. She did not work there and the person she mentioned had not worked there for some time, either. So to me, she seems to have no concept of hurting others. It is all about herself, whoever she can drag in, she will. It doesn't matter if they get hurt. She is so cold, it is unbelievable.

I find it odd that on Larry King, her parents said they got phone calls, texts, etc. and assumed Casey and Caylee were off visiting friends. But in Cindy's second 911 call, she said her daughter had been missing for a month and now she has found her but she does not know where her granddaughter is. I feel so sorry for George and Cindy, they have effectively lost a child and a grandchild.

stella6979 replied: I do not believe that Casey was ever a good mother to that baby. She was an unexpected pregnancy and she even tried to give her away after she was born. I think she was sick of living at her Parents house and decided her life would be better without having the responsibility of a child. I do think she killed her intentionally and I also think she had planned if for some time. And I also think Cindy knows all about it and is just protecting her psycho daughter.

A&A'smommy replied: this whole thing just sickens me I cannot mentally grasp the fact that anyone can kill their own child (or really anyone for that matter). I do think Casey did it and while I have no speculations about the case (because I really don't want to think about it) I feel like it was intentional

boyohboyohboy replied:
I guess its possible she had planned on searching on ways to kill her dgt for a long time..then finally came up with the clorophorm to knock her out and then it killed her..is it possible she freaked and caylee was in her trunk for a while because she didnt know what to do with her?
I dont know..
I guess part of me is glad that caylee is gone, just because like someone said what was her little life like behind closed doors. and although I dont blame cindy and george, I do have to wonder since they lived with them, didnt she have some idea that her dgt wasnt into being a mom? didnt she have some idea that caylee wasnt going to do well with her mother without some sort of supervision?
maybe cindy wanted casey to grow up and take responsibility thats why she "let" casey move out, but I would have kept much better in contact with my dgt if I was concerned for my granddgts safety..
and I think that george really must have more of an idea what happened with his job background.

I am just praying for peace for caylee, the rest of the adults with just have to live the guilt and consequences of what happened