Whooping Cough Shot for Adults - You need to read this info

CAMSMOM1 wrote: Whooping Cough Shot for Adults


"People may think they have to put up with coughs, but they don't," Alberts says. "Coughing is a symptom that something is wrong, but it can be effectively treated with proper medical attention."

For the first time, the guidelines include a "strong recommendation" that adults up to age 65 receive booster vaccinations for whooping cough.

Known medically as pertussis, whooping cough is a highly contagious respiratory infection characterized by coughing so violent that it can lead to choking, vomiting, passing out, and even broken ribs.

Children are routinely vaccinated against the disease, but older versions of the vaccine were too dangerous for use in adults because they could potentially cause serious central nervous system side effects.Last year, however, the FDA approved a new version of the vaccine that testing has shown to be both safe and effective for use by children over the age of 10 and adults under the age of 65.The revised guidelines call for adults aged 64 and under to get the booster pertussis, tetanus, and diphtheria vaccine every 10 years.

The hope, Irwin says, is that whooping cough can be eradicated in the same way that polio was several generations ago."Whooping cough is thought of as a kid's disease, but 28% of cases occur in adults," Irwin says. "A study in my state of Massachusetts showed that 40% of coughs severe enough to send patients to the ER were caused by pertussis."

CAMSMOM1 replied: I hope people read this.

3_call_me_mama replied: Gee I find it quite interesting that the shot does damage to an adult and not a child??? UM MM OK?! I have a real issue with vaccinations right now and after doing MUCH research adn reading for hours am really TICKED at teh CDC AAP and all teh other places that tell you how good shot are for you and how much they prevent thsi and that. The adverse effects of vaccines are far worse than most of teh diseases them selves. I won't go into a whol rant abotu people's lack of information about vaccines becaseu I too was an uniformed parent. Didn't question my child's Dr and never thought tice about the recommended shots. Well no more. Every day they are adding more and more things to what we should inject into our kids bodies and everyoen really paid attention to what was in those shots, I bet A LOT more people would say NO WAY not in my kid. So while some may be running out to get flu shots, and thsi whooping cough shot etc... we won't be.. parents or children. Also I had the c\whooping cough shot when i was a child... and guess what . I got whooping cough in my teen years.. so they don't prevent the disease, they may delay getting them and then in most cases they are far more deadly to you as an adult thatn as a child.. (chicken pox, same thing.. most children that get teh shot STILL get a mild or worse case of the pox, often in later years than they would have if they had not gotten teh shot and gotten teh disease as a toddler. ) okay getting off my now!

luvmykids replied: I had whooping cough a few years ago and actually did fracture 3 ribs from the coughing. It says children are routinely vaccinated, do they mean kids over 10? I never even knew there was a vaccine.

3_call_me_mama replied:
No it is not an age 10 and up thing. Children that recieve teh DTaP shot (the tetnus/booster what ever you want to call it) that they recieve from infancy has a strand of teh pertusis virus in it. Pertussis is the formal name for whooping cough. Most children get the shot, some without really knowing it because their parents never ask what the shot prevents against because they jsut decide that the Dr knows best. Not all tetnus shots have the P in them though. Kathleen only got the straight DT after a reaction to the pertussis at her well baby visit (at 2 months). Also if you recieve Pediarix ( I think it's called~ that 5 in 1 shot) they your child recieves teh pertussis vaccine also. Most vaccines are only shown to prevent the disease that they are designed for for 7 years. After that there is still a good chance that you could get the disease.

CAMSMOM1 replied:

To me, I much rather have him get a shot, then have whooping cough that could kill him.

I think about the Black Plague, measels, ect...and I understand why we have immunizations.

But like I said, it's everyone's personal choice. I know that I'm going to get a booster shot, I can't imagine getting whooping cough again. And now that I know you need a booster every 10 years, I can understand why I got whooping cough.

I'll get off my

Ann

3_call_me_mama replied: I respect your right to choose to VAX your child. And for the record getting a shot could kill your child just as eaisly as disease. If you do a google search on VAx and effectiveness you will see that they are not as effective as everyone might think. Also if you do some research on what is in those VAx you might feel verry dfferently about injecting them into your child.. And I may be wrong her but there never was a VAX for The black Plague. Also look for a graph on declien of diseases in correspondance to when vaccines were introduces. You will find that MANY diseases actually were on a HUGH decline before VAX were even introduced, and SOME had a big increase in Cases AFTER teh VAX was introduces. So the VAX actually caused cases in people that may not have otherwise got them. Another issue surrounding VAx is that before they were introduced and people were dying form all teh illness is the fact that living conditions were horrid everywhere at teh time. Indoor plumbing was not the standard. the streets were full of feces, and rodents adn such. Filthy living conditions breed diseases, and once they cleaned up the towns and streets, got running water installed in places etc the Vax were on a natural decline cause tehre was no place for them to breed anymore.

And you're rght they want us to get boosters to supposedly prevent the disease.. but in all reality they should be saying is Delay getting the disease. Some VAX are more like a birthcontrol pill, it only works as long as you keep getting them on regular basis, but even then it's not 100%. So if you want to put off a pregnancy then take BC, but be warned, if you stop you may end up pregnant and even if you don't stp, youstill might get pregnant.

3_call_me_mama replied:
I'd love to see the studies that prove this. As I am always lookign to further my knowledge on vacines.

And just a side note.... a VAx child can get whooping cough just as easily as one that hasn't been VAX. My nepheew got whooping cough and he is fully VAX against it. Kathleen has not had DTaP (reaction issues ) and was around him, befoer after and during the tiem he had the cough.. and she never cough it. He goes to a daycare center where all teh kids are VAx against it. but still came home with it. And actually a VAx child carries the strand in them, because there is a dead strand of teh virus in teh vaccine. (which is why there is a chance that you could get teh disease right after you've had the shot.

luvmykids replied: I'm just curious, for the parents who don't VAX. I'm always getting asked for copies of the kids records, and it implies that they can't attend daycare or preschool without them. Is that not correct? How do you get around that?

3_call_me_mama replied: If i am correct ALL (might be 1 or two that don't I can check for you) states have a medical exemption form (which means it is not safe for medical reasons for a child to be VAX) Kathleen haas one for a few of teh VAx due to bad reaction in infancy. Secondly, most staes have a Religious exemption. and also a bunch of states (not sure how many but 16 is sticking in my mind for some reason) have a philosophical/moral exemption. Every place that asks for immunization records SHOULD be saying to you. " i need a copy of their immunization records that shows they are up to date or i need an exemption form" Most dont' tell you that an exemption form is available. Kinda don' t ask don't tell policy. BUT you can call you health dept adn ask for an exemption form and actuall you can go online and find out info for your individual state. PM me and I can get you links if you want.
So it really isn't true that your kid cannot go to school without VAX. (Unless ther is a state that has no medical exemption or other exemptions) and Also on teh daycare thing. That is a littel different. It is up to each provider if they will allow UNVAX childern into their home or center. I know when I had teh daycare center we were required to keep on file all immunization records OR exemption forms. (Only found out about the exemption cause a parent came to me with one and i had to call teh state to find out what to do) andalso teh health Dept sent me a ton of exemption forms for parents that may not be aware tehy even exists.
And i want to say upfront... I am not saying that no one shoudl VAX their kid. I am saying that you should do your research about them before you do them, cause once you put it into the body you can never take it out. And for the record, Cameorn has his shots all up to date, due to my lack of information of the subject and me blindly following teh Dr's advice without question.. But once kathleen had her reaction I started researching and we are not going any further on hers. our decision based on lots of research adn information. We can always change our minds later adn have them done then if we ever feel the need.
Also I haven't posted any links here as "proof" or whatever only cause i don't want to make a hugh debate out of it. i have them and will pm them to anyone interested. Like i said earlier I do respect any ones choice to VAx their kid, but don't want people to feel that they HAVE to (especially without doing research)

CAMSMOM1 replied: .

I'm not saying that there was a VAX against the black plague, but if there was back then, I'm sure it wouldn't have killed as many people. KWIM?

You're right, I haven't studied up on it as much as you have. You have given a lot of good information that I should read up on.

So I'm not disagreeing with you. I can 100 % see your side of it, and I understand your concerns. And it just make me want to learn more about it.

And to answer your question Monica, you can enroll your child in school w/out VAX because you can say it's for "Religious" reasons.

And what I meant by the outbreak of Whooping Cough again, was information from my doctor and others I have heard on the news in our area...because it's becoming an epidemic again, because most adults are not getting their booster shots for it, and other immigrants and children without vaccines for it, are spread it around again. I'll have to look up that info for you, and I'll send it to you.

But again, it is everyone's personal choice. But I'm glad you wrote what you wrote, because it makes us all think about the choices we are making for our children, and as parents, we need to be informed.

Ann

CAMSMOM1 replied:


I am interested in getting more info on this, so if you could PM me that info, I would appreciate so I can make an educated decision...KWIM? Thanks again for your input.