War - What do you think?

Hillbilly Housewife wrote: ****I'll remove this post if there is any *violent* negativity!

What do y'all think about the war? I have to either leave the room, or turn the tv off when the News comes on now. I'm so sick of hearing about it....it's so sad.

What's your opinion? Do you think this war is beneficial? if so, how?

I think it may be beneficial because it is attemting to eliminate a threat...but at the same time, I think it's almost an abuse of power. It's ending a mistake which should have been taken care of years ago...

I just feel so bad for all the innocent people who are losing their lives, the lives fo their families, their friends... this world is coming to such a sad state. I support all the troops, but at the same time, I wouldn't want my DH to be sent overseas...or my dad, or my brother, my cousins, my friends.... abd I feel glad to be in Canada. We're *not getting involved* accordingn to our Prime Minister, but we are involved, everytime we watch the news, or say a silent prayer. Maybe Canadian Troups aren't necessarily fighting, but there are a lot of em supporting. My own Brother in Law was sent to the UAE south of Khattar, he leaves on the 18th of April for 6 months. I say that's Canadian involvment....the news should cover those who DO support, rather than just Chrétien's unsupportive shpiels.

I'm Off my .

Thanks!!

Anyone share my opinions? Different opinions?

( I don't want this to become a debate or anything....just a discussion!! )

TLCDad replied: I have mixed feelings about the war but I definitely support the troops.

However, after seeing the Iraqis celebrating today in the streets and now free... make me now know why this had to be done.

Hillbilly Housewife replied:
I'm confused....



I haven't actually watched the news in about a week. I've even walked away from people if they started talking about the war...what happened? Why were the Iraquis celebrating? They are free? Was Saddaam blown up?

????????

TLCDad replied:
Well they think he died in a bombing the other day, but have not 100% comfirmed it. And yep the Iraqis are celebrating because it looks like the Regime is "no-where to be found." So technically they are now free. Basicly it looks like the "war" is now over... more like cleaning up, policing and preparing for the new government. The US Troops have been in Baghdad the last 3 days and yesterday (Iraq time) they were walking through the streets with little to no resistance and the Iraqi people were going up to the troops thanking, hugging and kissing them. Women were throwing flowers down onto the troops and tanks... was a nice pleasant thing to see instead of bombs.

Its funny, the now free people were raiding the goverment office.... taking computers, and other goodies, about time they get a piece of what Saddam hogged from them.

supermom replied: Well, I really have mixed feelings about the whole thing......My XH was in Desert Storm, and my personal opinion was that we should have finished what we started then, with (probably) mixed results because who knows who would have taken over after Saddam!

However, I do get a different view since my husband is from Sweden and he reads the (on-line) Swedish newspapers. We (America) are basically the laughing stock of the rest of the world, and no one feels like we should be using our muscle in something that shouldn't concern us. Mind you, I am NOT saying this is how I feel, just how a lot of the rest of the world feels. News comes out totally different when not released from American News sources....and they are of the opinion that it is more than likely monetarily oriented because of the oil and stuff in that region of the world, not just in Iraq, but Iran, Kuwait, Saudi, etc, etc...

I do feel like we certainly overstepped our bounds as the self-appointed world's policeman. I also feel sorry for everyone, Iraqis, Americans, British and others, who have lost their lives because of this mess. I also can't help thinking in the back of my mind that someday, perhaps real soon, this will all come back to haunt us in the worst way. Look at how long 9-11 was planned as revenge, how long it took them to carry that out. Just because we got rid of Saddam, that doesn't mean there are not others just like him out there willing to do against us what we have done against them.

Hopefully it will all end for the good, and I am hoping and praying for this so that my children and grandchildren will be able to grow up in a safer, happier, more peaceful world. I truly hope this is the case, and I truly hope that we have done the right thing, regardless of world opinion. All we can do at this point is hope......

Hillbilly Housewife replied:
Now that's exactly what I meant by m,y comment about the mistake that shold have been fixed long ago. During Desert Storm. They had a HUGE chance to strike then, but chose not to, and look what that brought?

I agree. Very much so.

Hillbilly Housewife replied:
Wow.... That is (kinda) Awesome!!! I'm glad that everyone seems happier for the *obliteration* of the Regime.

I'm also glad that the Iraquis are taking back what should rightfully be theirs. Hopefully the country will not be a total site of anarch... once the dust settles, I think they will be much better off.

Thanks for clearing that up for me!!!! So much can happen in a few short days!!

Hillbilly Housewife replied:
You don't say.... it's like the news took all the negative thoughts about the war and broadcasted it to the world... but did they talk to the little peopl who support the war? Heck no!!

It's even if the majority of Canada supports the war, and the troops, and everything that has been going on, Chrétien goes and says something idiotic, and THAT's what shown to everyone. Geez.

If *I* was Prime Minister.... I might have done the same thing as him, but aybe phrased it differently, so as not to look like such an a$$. I mean he's right, in a way, to not get TOO invloved, because Canada is known for the *Peace Keeping*, not direct agression and attack, but Saddaam got what he deserved, and now, it,s made to appear that Canada did nothing to support the States. However, it is not so, Canada did lots to support the US, even if we weren't in the front lines ourselves.

Geesh.I might have said that we would help, but we would not take part in the direct assault.

I have to respect the fact that Chrétien took the risk of appearing like an idiot to protect Canada's status...think about it... How many American tourists (and others) overseas wear a Canadian flag on their backpack rather than an American one? From what I've seen/read/heard, Canadians get *treated better* in Europe than any other visiting tourist from anywhere else. But now? We'll get laughed at for sure!!

CantWait replied:

I agree with supermom, it's not america's right to go and fix something that isn't their problem to be fixed, as it isn't Canada's........Canada isn't the only super country that has opted out of this war, and for allies I don't think that is such a bad thing. Had given the time and the backup of UN, I'm sure Canada would have been happily behind the U.S.

Bless Jean for not sending my husband or any other Canadian soliders into this mess.

And Bless the american soldiers who are fighting for their country, although I don't agree with the war, I fully support the soldiers and hope that not to many are hurt in this conflict.

madaise replied: I am in total support of this war. IMO, it should have been finished 10+ years ago. However, at the time, I don't know that we really knew how bad things were there.. and we werent' there to remove the power, only to make saddam get rid of certain weapons. He promised he would, so we left. I am saddened that it has taken us this long to go back and help the Iraqis.

While I am saddened at the loss of life that is happenind in this war... the loss of life at the hands of saddam and his regime was so much worse, so much more horrific... and I feel for the people who lost under his rule. We all think hitler was bad.. this is bad and gruesome.... it sickens me to think that there are humans who are capable of so much evil. read here about genocide in Iraq...

I dont' understand how we can let someone like this rule a country.. we live in a world that is all about human rights... we see red if animals are mistreated.. yet, we will turn a blind eye to the things that saddam has done? Regardless of the WMD.. I think we were right to go in there. And I think we are going to find out, when all is said and done that the reason for resistance from France, Germany and a few others is that they were getting "deals" from saddam over oil. And I think that all those UN countries that were prepared to vote no and then veto should the need arise, this war.. who want their hands in the rebuilding, ought to be told they would be welcome to rebuild, they can finance part of the rebuilding process..

I'm sorry.. I haven't even read the other responses.. I'm not trying to debate. I'm just tired of all the anti-war stuff.. I know that periodically, in my marriage, we need to fight to get to a better, clearer spot. While we don't use violence to fight, I realize that if *I* were using violence (or he were) that we would need to be "taken out of power" and I'd do it (divorce). Well... we just went in and divorced saddam from his country for their safety. I've seen enough smiling, happy people, I'm glad we did it!

Oh.. and did you hear, the very first baby born in Baghdad after the regime was brought down, was via cc.. and she named her baby George. How about that? Pretty damn cool, imo.

madaise replied: Oh.. can I add something else?

I've seen all these peace-rallys.. and the violence that has come from some are shameful. So many people are against the war, but don't watch tv to even know what's going on. I dont' understand. I do understand how sad it is.. but this is history. We are learning so much right now.. and those who preach peace, yet aren't willing to watch the horrors of what saddam has done. Instead blaming us, we are the bad guy.

I saw on a site today that listed how many Iraqis had been killed so far in this war. No where did I see how many Iraqis have died under saddam's rule..... I am certain that the numbers would be so incredible that it would make us sick to our stomachs. Much less, the manner of how they died.

Ok.. one more thing after reading the other posts.. Yes, we had the chance to take care of things years ago. We didn't, instead, hoping saddam would be trustworthy and keep his word. So, we made a mistake. As parents, we all make mistakes.. does that mean we can't, or shouldn't, go back and fix them?

(( sorry... if you want to remove my posts, I understand ))

Hillbilly Housewife replied:
I agree...that's pretty darn awesome!!!

Hillbilly Housewife replied:
Hey Madaise... I don't think there is a need to remove your posts. You are certainly entitled to your opinions, and I believe that they are honest. While I agree that the war brought a great result for the Iraquis, I have to say that I am also ecstatic that us Canadians were not on the *battle field*. I would not wish to lose any member of my family, or any of my friends. However, I can't help but feel selfish with that thought...so many have made sacrifices, in order to better someone else's life.

I can certainly accept your feelings towards the countries who did not wish to participate, and I agree wholeheartedly that they should have helped in soem way or another. The above post was right (in my opinion) in that the countrise who did not want to participate want a piece of the pie, but they don,t want to help roll the dough.

We ALL make mistakes... and let the one who hasn't cast the first stone.

Thank you for your strong opinions, and I hope that we can continue to share thoughts so openly!