Need your help finding information - Second Hand Smoke

coasterqueen wrote: I know I came across some research a LONG time ago that someone who smokes and touches an individual that it's just as harmful to them as second hand smoke or the person smoking themselves. I can't seem to find it again online.

please.

Kaitlin'smom replied: I will look............

jcc64 replied: Huh- I hadn't heard of that. Would be interested in seeing the link if anyone finds it.
All I can say is, I recently stayed in a smoking room in an overbooked hotel- and it reeked! I don't know how long it had been since someone had actively smoked in that room, but everything, and I mean everything- stunk. Yuck!

Jackie012007 replied: yeah cigarette smoke is a smell that never goes away... I havent smoked for almost 5 months and my car still reeks... makes me nauseous when I get in it

redchief replied: There is quite a bit of reliable information out there about the dangers of ETS (Environmental Tobacco Smoke or second-hand smoke) to the respiratory systems of people; especially those with allergies, asthma and other chronic respiratory conditions. I could find no reliable studies to indicate that the touch of a cigarette smoker will transfer measurable amounts of cotinine (metabolized nicotine) through the skin. However it IS known that nicotine can be absorbed through the skin (which is why the patch works) and that tobacco harvesters have increased cotinine levels compared with those not in constant contact with tobacco. That's all I've seen recently (and I've seen a lot... looking for the impossible, easy way to quit smoking), for what is worth.

Oh, BTW... there is an 8 page pamphlet from the National Institute for Health that gives a pretty good breakdown of how tobacco is transmitted to humans here:

http://www.nida.nih.gov/PDF/RRTobacco.pdf

Kaitlin'smom replied: I have not found much, I will have to read that link.

coasterqueen replied: Thanks Ed for the info. I will look through it. I haven't found much either, but I could have sworn I found something a long time ago. Wish I would have kept it.

It's partially my ammo to get my husband to quit once and for all. He's been promising me for 3.5 years he'd quit and he hasn't moved an inch.

Course the thought of him being able to be there for his girls weddings, birth of his grandchildren, etc isn't working too well with him so I really don't see how the above mentioned would work either.

C&K*s Mommie replied: same here with my DH. If it works for you and yours, then I still have hope that Chris will quit sooner than later.

Best wishes on having success!

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luvmykids replied: Maybe try the lung association or the cancer society? Not much help here but I do remember after having the twins someone telling me something similar. It seems like she said the toxins emitted remain in clothing, etc.... she was saying if someone smokes outside and then comes in to hold a baby that wouldn't cut it, they needed to actually change their shirt.

Bee_Kay replied: I'm just gonna jump in here and let you all see my quitmeter! Lookin' good isn't it??

luvmykids replied:
And if each cigarette takes 7 minutes off your life, you've given yourself more than a whole extra year of life!

3_call_me_mama replied: Well since he's in his all natural way .. LOL
have him read this.... Second hand Smoke article
here's another
second hand smoke
One specifically discussing effects and children
Children and second hand smoke

coasterqueen replied:
I will forward that on to him. We had a lengthy discussion about this yesterday. He was getting on me for using the microwave and so then the subject of him using cigarettes came up. He didn't like that too well.

coasterqueen replied: Hmm, I'm not sure this article is going to help me. He doesn't smoke around the kids at all so they are not exposed to SHS literally. That's why I was trying to argue the possible harm in him touching them after he's had a cigarette.

3_call_me_mama replied: FOund this on another site... more what youre lookgin for I think.. But i'll keep looking. One that actually has a correlation between transfering teh dangerous toxins to peopel through touch.

Tobacco Odors
Burning tobacco smoke creates bad odors which also cling to people's clothes, hair, and even their skin. This contamination is so intense that when someone smokes in an air-conditioned room, the air-conditioning demands can jump as much as 600 percent in order to control the odors.
The bad odors created by tobacco smoke also linger on. Long after a person has left a smokefilled room, they may still have the odor of cigarettes on their bodies and in the fabric of their clothes. This is because while certain chemicals created by burning tobacco cause bad odors, other chemicals actually help the odors to hold onto the surface that they penetrate.
Smokers themselves are usually not sensitive to these odors because of the destructive effects that the smoke from their own cigarettes has on the inner linings of the smoker's nose.

OH here's one about passive smoking.....
Cigarette smoke filters through the entire house, and can easily be detected on furniture, carpets, curtains, and clothes. Even when smoking is limited to one room in the house, the smoke remains on surfaces for long periods of time, and thus children experience “passive” smoking. We don’t always think about how many times and places children are exposed to tobacco smoke outside of their homes. Cars, restaurants, and even playgrounds and parks are all places where children breathe in air that has been filled with the thousands of particles from tobacco smoke. Smoking occurs in family childcare centers, in “smoking areas” of childcare centers, and in many other public places. Passsive smoking

Kaitlin'smom replied: tell him he has to smoke organic ones.....here is one link I found for some

organic

course I have no clue what they might smell like but they sound 'healthier'

if he is so into all this organic stuff has he bothered to read/see/know what he is doing to himself?

here is another link about organic ones, probably not at all what your wanting but interesting

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