My daughter Allie - speaks of a past life...
Ash001 wrote: Hi, i am new here and in need of some advice. For the past few months my duaghter Allie who will be 4 June 21st has been saying some very strange things. The other day we were driving to pick up dinner and we passed a cemetary, Allie suddenly said " remember when i was a grownd up and my other mommy died she went in the ground" I said your not grown up your still a little girl. then she said "no before i was bigger, my other mommy went in the ground in greenood" and i said im your mommy. she then said " no i had another mommy, and another daddy, and a big brother" (she is an only child) then i asked her who they were and she said she didnt want to talk about it. that was about 2 months ago. I have never told her we bury people after they die, actually i havnt really discussed death much. Just you know, they are in heaven with god. She asked who my dad was in a picture i have, i told her he is in heaven and she said, nuh uh hes a baby again. i just laughed.
ever since she could talk she would say little odd things but nothing in great detail, just stuff like "i used to be big" "i was a mommy too" alot of i did that, like driving, having a baby, she will say she has done things she has never done before. like once she said she she had a broken leg, and got mad that i didnt remember. but i just put it off as childish fantasy and make believe, but recently she has had alot more detail sometimes she sais things that send chills down my spine. its not so much what she sais, its how she sais it. she also insist she was born in October, i always have to correct her.
then about a week or so ago we were in the backyard , she was luaghing and playing and told me she used to take her kids to the "prosperk" park to swing. i said how many kids did you have, she said 3. and their names were Abigell,Catherine (she said Cathern) and Little Franky. I was shocked at how old fashioned the names were. I was at a loss for words, she rattled the names off so fast, i dont know where she could have heard those names. then she went back to playing.
she hadnt said anything strange until last night, she asked if we could go to the city. we currently live in Pittsburgh PA, and i said we are in the city. and she said no new yerk city. and i said maybe someday. and she said before i lived in the city. i asked were and she said, her exact words "Winsor Tace" and i said wheres that and she said "Brocklan" (brooklyn maybe?). then went back to playing.
I am very confused, could all of this be fantasy and just her mind playing games? I just dont know, does anyone know anything about New York? Brooklyn, do those places really exsist? I try never out and out ask her, she tells me. I dont understand. My sister said my neice also said some strange things at that age. could this just be a phase. Do any of your kids say things like this also? Am i overeacting. I always kind of believed in reincarnation, but i have never talked to my duaghter about it, shes only 4. She is a normal child, and always developed a little ahead of other children i know, i just dont know what this could be.
thank you for any help.
mom2tripp replied: wow, I'm kinda at a loss for words as I read your post. It sounds like a little more than chilidish fantasy if she's talking about stuff that you haven't even talked to her about like being buried. I really can't give you any advice other than maybe taking her to talk to someone would help get everything out and really determine where it is all coming from. Sorry I couldn't help more but I do think you have a very interesting post.
gr33n3y3z replied: Well there is a Winsor in NY see Save on Hotels in Windsor, NY! Tace is a drug from what I'm understanding. For being only 4 she knows way to much and its kinda creepy but cool at the sametime. Hey maybe she knows something that we dont. Did you ever say any of this a Dr of some sort? Maybe you should.
Ash001 replied: No i have never told a doctor, just my sister, and my husband knows. I really dont know what to think. I mean it doesnt cuase her a problem, just every once in a while she was out an out shock us. I will have to look up some of New Yorks neighborhoods. could greenood be a cemetary in new york, or maybe a street?
I just dont know where she gets this stuff, i mean she doesnt watch alot of tv, nick jr, and disney. some videos and movies but nothing that talks about death or other lives. so none of you have any experiences with this sort of thing?
akbutterfly83 replied: I remember stuff that I think happened, but not for sure if it did.... it's so real... like I thought that I met my granpa's brother Johnny, but he passed away before I was born...
I haven't told meny people about it... just my granparents...... cause I was currious about if I ever met him.... and I knew things, but we don't know how.... like I knew what the car looked like in my mind... that he had.....
I don't know if I have had a reincarnation or something...... I don't know what to think about it.... I try block it, but now that I know I'm not the only one that has had this happen, I might have to get it checked up on.....
The only thing I know of, is when I was born, I had problems... and stoped breathing.... and the Queen of King Island, died in the next room, and when she did I started crying.... They pronounced me dead for a few minutes.... then I started crying....
The natives in the village that I am from belive that her soul went in to my body.... and I feel that they are right... cause I know things... that I wasn't there for..... So I am the soul princess of King Island......
It might be to far off gard for you all to belive.... so if you don't... please disregard it... as if I never said it.... if it will make you look @ me any differant....
I normally keep it to me and my family.... and a few friends..... but this is in my exsperience......
gr33n3y3z replied: I would be looking up every little thing that she says thats for sure Next time ask her what her full name was and start digging from there.
I know myself that I've been there and done that before but never have if you know what I mean? Same conversations same ppl. that blows my mind when that happends. If I dont finnish a dream out ummm it happens in the real and thats scary.
Keep us posted
akbutterfly83 replied: Yeah... try ask her questions.....
I remember stuff... but not in real detail like her.... I remember names of people that are nolonger here that I never met.... but never really knew what I was like or who I was.... just thought it was weird that I knew poeple that my grandparents grew up with, and I never met them....
Boys r us replied: Wow!! Very interesting!! I'm so hypnotized by all things of this nature!
I think you should probe! Ask her where her kids are..things like that...find out more! They say that kids are VERY much more in tune with things like this than we as adults are..so in my opinion, if you believe there is some validity to this, then I would find out all that you can now before she gets older and tunes/blocks it out!
Ivy, I don't think you're weird for what you said!! it sort of goes along with the story line in the 7th sign! I loved that movie for the mere fact, that it really made me think!!
amymom replied: Very interesting, I have had similar conversations with my 8 year old. But mine were much shorter conversations but still similar detail. When my daughter was about 3 or so she told me he birthday was May 22, she had 6 kids and she was "old but that was before I came to live with you" then she left to go play like it was nothing. Very weird. Since that was my mother's bithday, my mom had 6 kids and died two years before my daughter was born. Other similar conversations have happened. She sometimes will call my aunts and uncles her sisters and brothers. And she talks about some of them like she knows them even though she only met them once or not at all since they died as well before she was born. I have always, until reading your post, chalked it up to my reading too much into what she says. Now, I find it all very interesting Again!
I don't have any advice for you, just find it very interesting. Please keep us informed as to other things your daughter has to say. She seems very in touch with whatever this is, her imagination or something else.
Ash001 replied: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brook...k_neighborhoods
i found this site of brooklyn neighborhoods, but i cant find any windsor tace. theres so many.does anyone else see anything. im starting to think this is just fantasy. but its still very odd. I ran into a few sites about children who "still remember" and they say the key age is 2-5, 3 being the hotspot for past life memories emerging. they say the forget as they age. I want to find out more but i also dont want to push her to make anything up. next time she tells me, i will ask a few questions. Nonetheless she is a very special girl and i love her very much.
amymom!!! wow it sounds like your duaghter is your mother? that is very strange. but from some sites i have been reading it sounds like this is fairly common.
stanleygirl replied: Wow, I am so interested in all of this! I have never told anyone this, but when DS was born I instantly in that post birth state thought to myself that he was my grandmother. It was wierd, so I just chalked it up to the moment, but ever since then I seem to feel her sometimes....like she is in him. Wow see that's why I don't tell ppl about this bc it sounds very crazy lol
But I get the impression from what you are saying that this is all very real for your DD, and it seems as though you are finding the thing she says to me (mostly) true?? Good luck!
ferocity302 replied: Wow, when I read all these I got teary eyed. I myself have never told but a couple people about my experiences either. My twin sister died when we were 6 weeks old. But when I was about 18 I went to my mom and told her that I knew what she looked like....... I then went on to describe my sister to my mom. I told her that she didn't look as much like me as she did my older (7years older) sister. My mom was amazed. She told me that she did look more like my older sister than me as we were not identical twins.
My son has told me about dreams he has had and then they come true.... not just personal stuff either... stuff outside of our family. My daughter has only opened up a couple of times about it too.
It is hard to open up because there are people who would judge and feel you are crazy. Thanks everyone for opening up.... we all can use support sometimes.
I'd be very interested in this as well and ask some questions if the opportunity arises again. I don't think it would hurt to show an interst when she talks about it and research what she is telling you.
Ash001 replied: OH MY GOD!!! look what i found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Terrace%2C_Brooklyn
Windsor Tace - Windsor Terrace? Greenood - Greewood cemetary? Prosperk park - Prospect Park?
I dont really know what to say...what does this mean. she was very very close, and i know 100% she has never heard of any of those places, i have never even heard of any of the places, how could she possibly know that.
kit_kats_mom replied: ummm, there is a Windsor terrace. could just be her young pronunciation getting in the way. KWIM?
the park could also be a prospect park.
gr33n3y3z replied: I guess its time to start asking questions
Jamielou replied: I agree this is very interesting I would write all of the things she says down...
akbutterfly83 replied: Wow..... That's just too crazy....
Just keep us posted adn try asking her other questions on it....
Ash001 replied: Wow this is just all to strange. I started a journal on all of this, and wrote down all the things she has said, well what i could remember. Today i have off and on asked her a few questions, when i asked where did you live before you came to live with me. here are her exact, or fairly exact words(in quotes) everything is spelt phonetically exactly how she said it, so the spellings may be off if these places also really exsist.
"you know mommy" no i dont, where did you live? "in the city i told you" Do you know what street you lived on? "yep, i lived on other streets too" What was the street called? "silly road when i was little again" is that it? "shoyman street too" she got bored so i let her be.
a few hours later i brought it up again i asked what was her favorite thing to do when she was a little girl she said " my daddy took me to "abbet feld" to watch a game. (maybe a football stadium) and then i said what else "lots of stuff" like what? "eating egg cream" whats egg cream? "good"
i still dont want to push her too much, but i will gradually ask more questions. its amazing how fast she sais it, not like when shes making up a story, and how she sais it, shes so, like matter of fact about it. like i should know these things. I will have to look these things up, if any of you would like to help feel free, im not that good at researching i dont really know where to begin.
akbutterfly83 replied: This is what I found....
Egg cream... it's a fountain drink they had in NYC..... http://www.nycvisit.com/content/index.cfm?pagePkey=674
There is a road called, "Silly Road" in brooklyn.
I think the Shoyman is sherman... there is a Sherman Street in Windsor Terrace, in Brooklyn.
I looked them up... for you... and that's what I found......
Hope this helps you.....
kit_kats_mom replied: interesting... here is a picture of the homes on Sherman Street in Windsor Terrace http://www.irasperipheralvisions.com/webpages/wt03.htm
Some of the other streets http://www.forgotten-ny.com/Alleys/midbrooklyn/midbrook.html
Egg Creme info: http://www.nycvisit.com/content/index.cfm?pagePkey=674
http://www.newyorkfirst.com/gifts/1002.html
I'd probably ask what her full name was and her exact birthday and maybe what kind of car she drove. That would narrow down the time
akbutterfly83 replied: I don't know what Abbet field is... but when I looked it up... it is a grave site... cemitary.... to my knowlage.....
It's more for famous people... but there are non famous people there too.....
Maybe ask her if she had anyone famous in her family? that's all I can think of..... or ask her what Abbet field is.....?
But there is also an Ebbet's field, where the Dodger's played.... but is no longer there from what I get... and they made a new Dodger's stadium.....
Hope this helps.....
Josie83 replied: Gosh reading this is giving me chills! xx
kit_kats_mom replied: What is her birthdate?
Ash001 replied: WOW!!! i cant believe these things are actually real places? could it just be a coincidence? i dont know. this is amazing me. I aksed her what abbet field was and she said a ball field. I seen something on Mcarren pool, opened in 1935. last summer she had said something like that when we were going to the indoor pool at the gym. she would say mickarin mickarin, we thought she got confused at the name of the gym, YMCA, but this was before she had mentioned any big details. wow this is so strange. I will ask her her last name, and her birthdate. thank you all for all the help with researching, its weird to here Allie say these things.
akbutterfly83 replied: Well if it was a baseball field then it was the Ebbet field....
Here is the history I have found on it..... http://www.athomeplate.com/greenwood.shtml
http://www.nydailynews.com/boroughs/v-pfri...6p-261191c.html
http://www.ebbets-field.com/guestbook%20archives.htm
Ash001 replied: Wow so she was right about that also, this is amazing!!!!! Im going to go and ask her what her birthdate was, and her full name.
akbutterfly83 replied: This is what I found on the pool.... http://www.gothamgazette.com/unpreserved/9.shtml
http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%20SCENE...l/mccarren.html
akbutterfly83 replied: I'm just very interested in this.... sorry if I am bombarding you with info on these places....
Ash001 replied: no your not, im happy to get as much information as possible. i asked her when she was born and she said 2001 lol, then i said what about before you came to live here. she said october 1909 and her full name she said "Mary Browsky". I will check it out on ancestry.com, becuase yahoo didnt turn up any substantial results.
akbutterfly83 replied: Well I don't know on that one... I looked it and found nothing.....
redchief replied: For everyone's information; the name Mary Browsky doesn't turn up ANY results.
akbutterfly83 replied: That's what I was getting too.....
Maybe she's pronouncing it wrong..... or something....
redchief replied: I'm thinking "or something" is closer to it.
kit_kats_mom replied: it could be d'browski or browski. Also that could be her married name which wouldn't turn up in birth records.
akbutterfly83 replied: I was talking to a friend.... and she said.... maybe try give her paper and ask her to draw you some pic's......
She also said maybe take her to a hypnosis, but not a counceler, cause they might say she is skiso and put her on meds....
She also said she could be a few years off, cause back then, some birth certifisates were messed up and didn't have the right year they were born and off by a few years.... like her ex-husbands dad's was off by 3 years.....
Maybe ask her where she was born, or where she was barried.....
Hope this helps.......
Ash001 replied: I found a Mary Borrowski born 1909 in kings new york. (wheres kings new york? i know queens, never heard of kings) scroll down a bit. It even has a picture if her but you have to suscribe to get all of the details. and im alsways wary to use my credit cards over the internet.
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll....x=0&submit.y=0
Mary browski did turn up results for me, just nothing that matched. it even corrected it to mary borowski, but i still thought it would have been spelt how she said it.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=mary+brow...ggle=1&ei=UTF-8
Actually i have a few pictures she has drawn i try to keep all of her little things. I will look at them tommorow to see if anything is more than childish doodles. I have thought about hypnosis but isnt she a bit to young for that? Im still a bit skeptical, i mean you can really punch in any name on ancestry.com and find something, so i dont know.
akbutterfly83 replied: Kings is like a county in Brooklyn.... as far as I get.....
Maybe ask her what nationality she was.... see if she could answer that...... Or even when she died...... what year, and where.... And maybe where she was barried....
I'll check on other cemitarys in that area......
akbutterfly83 replied: I think the park she was talking about is in Kings county......
http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&clie...&sa=X&oi=localr
here is the link to what I have found... so far.....
Ash001 replied: Wow i looked at those sites, and searched for a mary borrowski, but nothing came up. but she didnt say she was burried there, she said her mother went there. i asked her what her moms name was, but she just sais mom. also i asked if she remembered when she died, and came to live with me. she said " no mommy" (she was annoyed at me) she said "i dont remember" then I said ok. I asked if she remembered what nationality she was, but she didnt understand. Her name sounds polish, but i want to see what she sais. thanks again for all of the help.
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