Crisis in school today...

MommyToAshley wrote: at least in Ashley's eyes.

Ashley's school does the green-yellow-red system. Most of you probably know what that is, but for those that don't -- the kids all start out with a green ticket and then if s/he gets into trouble s/he moves to a yellow ticket and next time is a red ticket. Ashley has never had a yellow or red ticket... until today. She was singing to herself (...errrr, well I guess out loud) during "work time" in class today so she was told to pull her green ticket and go to yellow. She started crying in class. She had never gotten in trouble before and this was so upsetting to her. She even cried again when she was telling me about it. Personally, I think that warranted just a warning, but I don't know the entire scenerio, just what Ashley told me. I didn't share these thoughts with Ashley, but I sometimes wonder if her school is a bit too strict at times. But, on the other hand, they do know that "work time" is quite time and if all 17 of them were singing then it would get pretty loud in there.

luvmykids replied: Oh, poor Ashley! I'm sure it came as a complete shock to her, she probably didn't even realize she was doing it outloud

The twins use the ticket system. But they always get a warning unless someone were to physically do something to another kid, throwing, hitting, pinching, etc....I think a warning would have been plenty, especially for Ashley

Calimama replied: Hope Ashley cheers up soon.

A&A'smommy replied: Poor Ashley!!!!! I think your right I think she should have just gotten a warning I'm sure she probably didn't even realize she was singing loudly it might just be a cute quirk of hers... anyway poor girl!! I hope her day tomorrow is better!!!

Maddie&EthansMom replied: Maddie's school is really strict, too. But that seems ridiculous. Will this go against her conduct grade?

I agree that she probably didn't even realize she was singing aloud. At that age they read aloud and hum to themselves. I guess it is all about teaching them proper conduct, but still.....

lovemy2 replied: Olivia uses the ticket system too - theirs are yellow, green and blue - yellow good, green ok and blue bad - Olivia has had a couple green cards not for behavior but more for her not being able to "contain" herself - she gets soooo excited about being in school, etc. that sometimes she just jumps out of her skin to tell something or answer something, etc. but it takes more than one warning to get from one color to the next.....

But I have found that what Olivia tells and what really happens are usually two different things but NOT because Olivia lies but because she really only remembers the "last straw" that got the card changed....

I always explain to her that everyone has rough days and its OK but its not OK to not learn from those rough days and try very hard not to repeat them....

Many to Ashley..........

Kirstenmumof3 replied: Poor Ashley I hope she feels better soon!

MoonMama replied: Oh no poor Ashley.

Cece00 replied: My kid's K teacher is OBNOXIOUSLY strict. It really ticks me off.

Like today, my kid got written up for putting the hood on his jacket on his head in line. WTF???????? Like, pick your battles lady...what a STUPID thing to get all up in arms about. A couple of weeks ago one of them was for using the bathroom at the "unassigned" time. WHY IS THAT A PROBLEM?????

She does this multiple times a week.

At one point I had to bring in a psych to tell her to knock it off & give her some suggestions on how to help him "behave" better...she (the teacher) didnt really do much about the suggestions. Its like she thinks she is just so awesome, why change? UGH.

Plus my son is VERY smart, he's having his IQ tested at the end of the month, and thats part of the problem with him- he finishes everything early & then is "distracting" (according to the teacher...I think its partly him, partly her imagination).

Anyway, the psych did the best she could but in the end told me to ignore it & tell my son how great he is (because her constantly getting on his butt is effecting him ) & remind him to follow the rules every day....she said its not me & its not my son, its DEF. the teacher.

Ugh...so thats what I do. I never talk bad about her in front of my son, but between you and me, I'd like to kick her...really hard...in the head.

Calimama replied:
There's an ASSIGNED time to NEED to go to the bathroom!? Are you kidding me!? I'd be mad..

gr33n3y3z replied: That is ridiculous
I know teachers have rules but your right a warning would have been nice
And if it happend again then go to yellow
I would say something just bc she was having a bad day and being an @$$

mom21kid2dogs replied: Everybody makes mistakes. I know Ashley will learn quickly from hers! Sounds like it was just something she did without thinking about it.

Now that I spend everyday in about 8 classrooms per day, I have a pretty different view of classroom behavior. In the schools I work in they use a similar system~some teachers have a round board with colors and a clothes clips, some of the younger grades have cars on a race track but they all use the color system these days. Some days, if I hear "move your clip" one more time, I want to scream!! I'm sure their teachers do, too!

ETA: The best (by far) first grade teacher I see doesn't use the system at all. She never raises her voice and has the most controlled group ( and at 31 kids the largest group) I see. She rocks!!

Hillbilly Housewife replied:
Well I can totally understand THAT one... for OLDER kids. Come on lady... would she rather he have an accident?!

I had the same problem as a kid... I was skipped over senior K altogether, because nothing they were teaching in there was new to me. I could already read. When I was about 7 I had the IQ testing done too...because a lot of the time in school, I'd be already doing the work by the time the teacher was done handing out the papers... and usually done by the time she was done explaining what to do. I scored 154.

lisar replied: Oh poor girl. I know how it is. Everytime Lexi brings home a bad color she has an entire story to tell me about how it was an accident and she didnt think it was fair. I know it can be hard on you as well.

Kaitlin'smom replied: wow that does seem strict, do you think there was more to the story?I know when Kaitlin got scratched by a class mate in her face, there was more to it than she first told me. She did not start it but she ended it.

have you ever noticed her doing this at home when she is involved in something?

I dont know the system but can she go back to green or do they start fresh everyday?

poor thing that must have devistated her, she is a good kid.

jcc64 replied: Corey would be the same way, Dee Dee. She melts if she thinks she's "in trouble". I do think that sometimes the teachers treat the kids like a herd of cattle that needs to be contained, these are still very young kids after all, but I guess they know how quickly things can get out of hand. The teacher probably feels she needs to be consistent across the board because other kids are paying attention to how "punishments" are administered. If the teacher didn't change Ashley's color when she broke the rules, but did with another kid, it might seem unfair, kwim? Kids this age don't see the big picture- that Ashley is usually a model student- they only see what's right in front of them, kwim?
Anyway, knowing Ashley, she probably won't find herself in this situation again!

Jamison'smama replied: That does seem excessive. I wonder if there was a warning--or the the teacher made the blanket statement---"if anyone makes another noise....". Poor Ashley. I hope it doesn't dampen her enthusiasm. I know for sensitive kids it can make them nervous.

Jamison's kindergarten has no system at all but is really controlled. I have no idea how she does it. She has a certain clap that the kids repeat and she has their undivided attention. She is a 20 year veteran and is very laid back --I got very lucky.

booey2 replied: Our kids both have/had this kind of system and the boys are always telling us that their day was either, red, yellow or green. I only wish it would work at home as well as it does at school. Give her a big hug and I am sure has learned her lesson from it and won't have any more yellow days.

Terri

Cece00 replied:
Yeah, there is.

Granted, I guarantee if a handful of other kids asked to do it, she would be OK.

But they went, he said he didnt need to go, and maybe 10 min later decided he DID need to go & she told me she told him "OK, but I will have to write you up for not going @ the assisgned time".



WHO CARES???

I wish I could be there & be like "Uhhh, no, you cant go to the bathroom right now, that was 10 minutes ago. I'm going to have to dock your pay if you decide you want to go right now" and see how SHE likes it.

Frankly, I hate her. I think she is OK on the teaching front but her disciplinarian skills could use A LOT of work.

The psych says she is having a lot of issues in her personal life & is taking it out on the kids by being a control freak. I agree.

I am going to do my best to make sure my other 3 kids DO NOT have her. Sometimes I just want to smack her.

luvbug00 replied: we have the system too but mya's teacher is super cool and doesn't move them unless they have to be reminded more then twice. fopr Ashley