Cameragirl21... - Jennifer..
sparkys2boys wrote: any luck with the crazy lady and the pics? Did you speak to her anymore today and come to an agreement at all?? I'm hoping that you told her to take a hike..lol!! But that's just me, I can't believe that she is turning a good thing into a money issue with you.
cameragirl21 replied: oh God, this is her latest email to me, it just gets better and better. and i don't want her to accompany me to any interview or anywhere, i don't want to be seen with her, she repulses me. anyway, here is her email...all i can say is ----------- <<CAN WE BOOK HER FOR THE WEEK IN BETWEEN CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEARS? MAYBE THE 28TH?>>
Jennifer, The message above is from the producer of another major FL network news station (not Channel 4.) Please let me know what you want to do by 5pm tomorrow because I have to get back with the producer either way. I'd hate for you to miss this TV opportunity to promote your calendar but also do not appreciate feeling taken advantage of and feeling that I am now forced to pay you for prints. That was not how I understood our arrangement. In any event, the choice is yours. If you want me to book you, please send the hi res images to me on disc at the address below. Upon receipt, I will confirm the booking, will provide you with the information and will accompany you to the studio for your segment. If not, then we will just part ways. Regards, Jennifer
sparkys2boys replied: OMG.. she just doesn't let up does she..lol. What are you going to do? Have you decided? Well, on the up side she sure wants those pics, you must do some awesome work girl..lol!!! It must be killing her to want them so badly to try and get her way..lol.. I can almost hear her sulking through her emails!!!
cameragirl21 replied: this is my planned response, but i haven't sent it yet, what do you think? ------------------------------ Jennifer, The agreement we had was a photo session and prints for $1 each…this is what you agreed to and whether you misunderstood or not is beside the point, this is what we agreed to and we are both expected to honor it. I’ve gone above and beyond that by offering you 10 free 4x6 pictures. Not once have I ever heard of the rules being changed in the middle of the game because someone misunderstood them before the game started. At any rate, my negatives are my property and they will remain with me. My studio policy is that negatives remain my property. There is no sense in arguing this or any other rule as the rules are not going to change. If you want to back out of our agreement, that is up to you. I will have to call Gio myself and make these arrangements myself as the ball is already rolling on that one and considering I met and spoke with Gio, I have no problem calling him and dealing with him myself. I managed to get myself onto ABC news twice so I’m sure I can handle this. I am somewhat amazed that you would find it in yourself to hold a charity hostage over your own personal needs; I sought and took no personal gain from this agreement with you, it was purely for charity to benefit others. If after what you saw with John Lore did not touch your heart and you can honestly walk away from this over something as petty as pictures and negatives then you are definitely not the right person for me to work with. I can’t imagine a circumstance in the world that would lead me to back out on something of this magnitude for something that I want for my personal use. Charity and personal gain are very different things and I feel we get involved in charity to benefit others, not ourselves. It’s one thing to get something personal out of it, like a free photo session and deeply discounted prints but it’s quite another to walk away from something that involves people dying because you couldn’t extricate everything you want out of it. I will not be blackmailed for my negatives and what you’re asking is nothing short of blackmail. If that’s something you’re comfortable with then you and I definitely handle things very differently. Search your heart, Jennifer, and decide if you could look John and his family members in the eye and tell them that you’re walking away from this because you can’t get negatives without feeling ashamed or embarrassed and if you can do that then that’s up to you but it certainly wouldn’t speak highly of your character. If, after that search, you find you are still interested, feel free to contact me and we’ll get back to business. Be well, Jennifer
CantWait replied: Jenn, honestly I'd cut all ties. Like you said, you've been able to get on the news on your own before, and I'd say that's what's best in this situation.
She's trying to make things nothing but miserable and that's that.
Good Luck.
sparkys2boys replied: Jennifer, it sounds very good to me. Have you sent it yet? If so, what is her response? I would just walk away as this could go on for weeks, fighting back and forth, and like you said in the end you will not change your ploicy for her.
cameragirl21 replied: yes i sent it and this was her response to me...sorry but this displays a level of emotional instability that i'm not comfortable with under the circumstances. i have no intention of even replying to this, unless someone has another suggestion or sees this in another way and can shed some light for me.... ------------------------ Jennifer, This will be the last communication you receive from me and you will not be able to email me going forward as I don't have time for this back and forth. Clearly there was a misunderstanding regarding our agreement. The fact that you now choose not to acknowledge this fact and are unwilling to do anything to correct in a way that is agreeable to both of us speaks volumes. Misunderstandings happen but it is how people choose to deal with it what shows true character. Offering me 10 free 4x6 images does not even begin to cover my needs for holiday cards for my immediate family alone. That is not "going above and beyond." I could have easily told you that my press releases are "my property" and could have opted not to email it to you. I did so in a good faith effort. You got what you needed and I did not, and even now that you realize that there was a misunderstanding, you are not willing to make things right. I am FLOORED that you would try to now make me feel guilty for not wanting to continue to work with you. I spent 3 hours at the Lore's (you were late by the way) and am in the process of writing a story for the paper, got you an opportunity to be on the radio to promote your calendar, am working things out with WFOR, AND have another television opportunity for you. How dare you say I have "walked away" from this effort. I do plenty of charity work and may in fact continue to help with publicity for ALS. Do not confuse my code of ethics and my moral compass with not wanting to work with someone who is clearly not playing fair. I more than willing to continue to fulfill my agreement, however you are the one not willing to turn over negatives. One would think that you'd stop quibbling about your "petty negatives", as you wrote yourself. You can't do anything with them anyway as I have not signed a release. Now it appears that your stubbornness is of more importance than helping to raise awareness for ALS. Emotional blackmail does not work with me and I think you need to look inside yourself. If you can tell the Lore family that you had the opportunity to be on television to promote awareness for ALS and turned it down because you were unwilling to provide me with 200 high res images of my family without feeling ashamed or embarrassed, well, that is entirely up to you. We had a misunderstanding and you now have the opportunity to make it right. If you opt not to do so, then that is your choice but do not expect me to work with you under such unfair circumstances. This was your cause and one would think if it was so very important to you, you would send me the petty negatives. If you wish to move forward then you can send me the disc. If not, then good luck in your future endeavors. I will not be receiving any more emails from you from this point on. Jennifer
sparkys2boys replied: Jennifer, I would leave it alone now. She clearly has ill intent in the whole process here. I did have a question though, did you guys have the original agreement on paper, or e-mail, etc? Was just thinking that if you did it would have easily cleared this situation up.
booey2 replied: Jennifer I am sorry you are having to deal with someone so unreasonable. I may be a little confused but are the negatives and the high res pictures she is asking for the same thing?
CantWait replied: 200 prints. Is she CRAZY????
grapfruit replied: I said the exact same thing!
What a wacko! Why didn't she just ask for your first born and a leg while she was at it?!?
MyLuvBugs replied: She's a freakin' nut job if she thinks ANY pro- photographer would give her 200 FREE prints. Whata psycho!! Get a new publicist or do it yourself. No one needs that crap. Especially around the holidays. And telling you that YOU don't understand that this was a misunderstanding??? You stated that in your first paragraph of your last email that it was a misunderstanding. WTF? Just dump her sorry tush and find someone new.
TheOaf66 replied: from an outside view not taking into account the seriousness of the situation, it is rather amusing that she "selectively" hears what she wants and keeps trying to turn things around. I think it would be in your best interests to walk away and find someone else, there are a lot of PR people in the area I assume.
holley79 replied: I just happened into this and am totally lost and just going with the current emails.
Charity or not 200 prints free makes her nuttier then any 50 year old fruit cake. The biggest issue here is the negatives and they are always the photographers UNLESS you buy the copyright and ONLY if it is for sale. Not to mention 10 free prints is a very good deal. I thought I was doing great getting 5 from the lady that just took A&C's pictures for us. Jennifer honey, RUN!!!!!
cameragirl21 replied: thanks for the support, guys, i really appreciate it. i'm used to difficult customers but this is a little over the top IMO. yes, the negatives and high res files are the same thing, high res files are essentially digital negatives. and no, we didn't have it on paper, i explained to her that i don't give out negatives, that is my studio policy and she said that was fine and then i asked if she wanted everything in a contract and she said that she didn't need a contract if we're agreed on everything, which at the time we were, or so i thought. the lesson i learned is always have a contract or something in writing, just in case someone decides that a misunderstanding on his/her part automatically leads to a whole new agreement. is it just me or does the email altogether sound emotionally unstable...?
grapfruit replied: I agree, she's a nut job. And hey, we learn from our mistakes, right?
Jamison'smama replied: Unstable....Yes! I agree with the selective hearing. Remember, no matter how hard you try, the fact is you cannot reason with unresonable people. I have never had a photographer who gave out the negatives...well, after 5 years I had the option of buying them or they would be destroyed. It's like this woman does not take your profession seriously. It's not like you were just two girlfriends out at the park with a disposable camera....this is your life's work. I agree with everyone else...RUN!
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