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cameragirl21 wrote: I could help but notice that the Gosselins were on the cover of at least 4 magazines, seems they are now full blown celebs. I don't care for Kate, although I do admire certain things about her--her house is ALWAYS clean, which Idk when she has time to do that with 8 kids running around and even if she has a housekeeper these days, it wasn't always like that and her house was always clean. She's also in rather good shape, especially for someone who has had 2 sets of multiples and I know she's had a tummy tuck but the rest of her is in rather good shape also. It seems she has a personal trainer but when she has time for that, I can't even begin to guess. Also, even though I find her to be a major PITA, she seems pretty chipper (as chipper as someone like Kate can get anyway) and I can't even begin to imagine what I'd be like if I had 8 kids, nearly all the same age running around, needing me all at once, I think I'd lose my mind before the sextuplets celebrated their first bdays. Anyway, that being said, do you believe either or both of them is guilty of an affair? I'm going to say probably yes, I can see how unhappy and under pressure they both look on the occasions I do watch the show, which is not all that much. Interestingly, the show made them very well off and probably ultimately is the cause for much of their problems also. It seems to be the most watched show on TLC and I can see why it's interesting to people. PITA that Kate is, and as indifferent and downright rude to her that Jon is sometimes, they are infinitely more interesting than the Duggars, no doubt. Although that Maddy can drive anyone to drink, imo.
Calimama replied: If she's "chipper" than I'd hate to see what you think downright mean is..
Yeah I do think they are guilty. I think it's sad. If they are having problems in their marriage, turning to other people aren't going to fix them. For their kids sake I wish they had more respect for themselves, each other, their vows.. etc. But then again who knows, maybe they didn't cheat!
luvmykids replied: I think I agree with this....if you're unhappy in the marriage, fix the problem or get out before you disregard your vows entirely. I know that's easier said than done, but nobody promises it's going to be easy
On the other hand, although it's rare, there are some couples who end up better after an affair than they were before. For the kids sakes, I hope they're one of them.
jakesmommy08 replied: see im kinda torn on this........i truly in my heart feel like they wouldnt cheat....ya kate can be a B***h and jon has his days also......but.......youve got 8 kids running around...plus cameras all the time....idk i just dont feel like its true....but at the same time.......with 8 kids running around.....how intimate could you possibly be? and maybe if they are cheating its kind of a way of feeling free from all the responsibilites.......know what i mean? I am all for if your not happy get out! Dont mess around cuz its just gonna make life worse in the end....so i hope for the sake of the kids that they work this out....and its a shame that there kids will see this (rather now or down the road)..........hope it works out
my2monkeyboys replied: I don't like Kate. I think she's a controlling B----. Whether her house is spotless or she has a personal trainer matters not to me. I think she treats Jon like a child and while I don't condone affairs, I can understand the mentality of those that participate in them to an extent when in a situation like this. That being said, I do not think Jon is a saint. He knew how she was before they were married, though I'm sure it has intensified with all the kids to take care of. I think he should not have cheated (and yes, I think he has), but I also think that this may help their marriage, if they want to work things out. Of course, that's only if they both are honest and open with each other and are willing to compromise... you know, the basis of all good marriages. I think though they may have to call it quits with being famous for spitting out lots of babies, too, and I'm not sure Kate would want to do that.
cameragirl21 replied: Ha! Did you read the article in People Magazine where she was interviewed and what she had to say about Jon and their marriage?! If I were Jon, I'd leave her right on the spot just for that. As for her spotless house and her being in good shape, while I don't like her either, I do think she has to be commended for those things...I think many of us would like to have such a clean house and her figure and given most of us don't have all those kids running around, I do think it's a mention in her favor, in spite of everything else about her that's negative. I think they're headed for splitsville, especially if Jon has one ounce of self respect...the problem is...where will the money come from now? Would you watch "Kate minus Jon plus Eight"...?
stella6979 replied: Her house is always clean because she has people to clean it for her and she's in such good shape because she has all the time in the world to work out, since she has other people taking care of her kids. She is not a Mom, she is a money hungry woman who treats Jon like a dog and I don't blame him for wanting to step out. Now, I'm not condoning it or anything, but who in their right mind would want to be treated like that? I also don't believe Jon is innocent in all this, but from what I've read, there's a possibilty that Kate has been cheating too, so I don't see why he's the only one catching so much heat from all this. As for Maddy, look at her family life. I'd be a bit bratty too, if I had all that to deal with. I feel so bad for those kids and I think it's time they stop the show and focus on their children's happiness.
DVFlyer replied: I hardly watch it, but the few times I've caught it, Jon seems like a beaten man.... with Kate doing the beating.
moped replied: Well I only have 2 kids and they keep me so busy that I was able to take the weight off quite easily....I am sure 8 keep her HOPPING all day every day, so I am not surprised by her shape at all.........
I do not think they had affairs, but time will tell if that rumor is true.
jcc64 replied: You guys are taking it for granted that everything written in the gossip rags is true. They have been sued time and again for printing lies and slander. Do I think their marriage seems solid at this point? No. But that doesn't mean they're involved with other people, either. And though Kate is at times an abrasive rag, Jon seems at times immature and irresponsible. Sometimes women get raggy and resentful when the other parent gets to do all the fun stuff while they're stuck with the day-to-day drudgery of running the family. She's an annoying control freak no doubt, but it takes two people to screw up a relationship.
cameragirl21 replied: Idk, Jeanne, Kate was interviewed in People Mag and everything she was quoted as saying sure sounds like "Katespeak" to me. I agree Jon is no saint and if they didn't cheat, then how do you explain Jon being out at 2am, drunk, with another woman he kept calling "babe"? I have been there and let me tell you, if a married man is out in the wee hours of the morning with another woman and his wife is not present, nothing good is going on there. Of course, there is always an exception to every rule and I don't really care either way, just wondering how all this will play itself out...they have to stay together in order for the money to keep rolling in and it seems they are both doing all the wrong things--why is Kate dissing Jon and saying they might split up in popular magazines?! And why isn't Jon accompanying her on her speaking engagements, even if he can't stand to be in the same room with her, it's a chess game they both have to play if they want to keep the lifestyle going. Not saying that should be their priority but it doesn't look like either of them wants to give up the $$$ that goes along with life in the fishbowl....
DVFlyer replied: Lots of men go out with their "nieces" at 2:00am...
Whether they stay together or split up, this "reality" circus...errr.. show will continue. Imagine the ratings (doubled) they'd get by filming their separate divorced lives trying to share custody of all those kids.
sad actually.....
Boo&BugsMom replied: I honestly don't know what to think about it all. I am on the fence about a lot. On one hand, I don't believe everything I read. The mags just want to make $$$ off of people's drama. I also don't know any of them personally and I hate to judge people based on a 'reality' show with a LOT of editing. On the other hand, what I do see on tv...both of them are ridiculous. Kate treats Jon like a child, but he also acts like one...so... I am somewhere inbetween with what Jeanne and Stella both said.
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