another Adam and Eve question

cameragirl21 wrote: ok, so i think i want to do a version of Adam and Eve with a pg woman together with her hubby, complete with snake, apple and huge pg belly.
the way i see it, if she and hubby didn't bite the apple, they'd not be pg. the idea is to be artistic, not offensive, but i am, in essence, calling her a sinner, i mean that is not my intention but i'm trying to look at it from another angle, and i'm afraid that is how people will see it--that i view her or any pg woman as a sinner which is really not what i mean to say, she is a temptress IMO, that is how i see all pg women or they'd not be pg. i think pg women are absolutely beautiful and sensual and that is what comes out in my pics of pg women, this is just another twist on an old story.
i'm not asking if i'd offend the pg woman and her DH because i'd find one that wouldn't be offended to do it with.
also, to a degree, it does imply ignorance about the bible because by the time Eve was pg, they were out of the garden, it's just a biblical reference to a timeless and beautiful condition.
the question is, would you, if you are religious, be offended by this, if i have this pic on my website or in my portfolio?
in all fairness, i am secular AND completely seeing this through the eyes of an artist and countless artists have done the Adam and Eve thing, in fact, i can think of at least one whose work i didn't care for till i saw his Adam and Eve rendition...clearly i'm fascinated with the whole A and E story.
what do you think, those of you who are religious, would you be offended and not want a photographer who uses this analogy to a pg woman? the pics would be very artistic, not lewd or obnoxious in any way, in case that influences your opinion.
would the sinner analogy be the first that came to your mind? would it bother you at all?
i really want to do this so i'd need a compelling reason not to do it and if anyone has one, i'm all ears.

Danalana replied: Well, Eve did sin...no getting around that. But pregnancy was not a consequence of that sin. After the fall, God told her that she would have pain in childbirth. I believe there would have been pregnancy regardless.

Cece00 replied:
I thought the same thing.

Biting the apple does not = pregnancy.

Quoted from the bible:

"I will intensify the pangs of your childbearing; in pain shall you bring forth children."

kristy-n-chad replied: I don't mean to offend you, but I would see that image and see ignorance, simply bc Eve was not pregnant in the Garden. She was to travail in childbirth after the fall, that was part of the consequence, that and the actual expulsion from the Garden.

cameragirl21 replied:
i completely see what you're saying but the thing is that i'm not so much trying to re-enact what happened in the bible so much as i'm giving a new twist to an old story as an artist.
i love the A and E theme and like i said, i've always seen the beauty and sensuality of a pg woman so i figured that maybe i could do my own rendition...the fact that it's not accurate to what the bible says doesn't bother me nearly as much as i'm afraid people will think i'm making her and her DH out to be sinners and that's no the idea at all, i'm just trying to portray both the sensuality and beauty of her being pg and also taking an old concept and spinning it from another angle.
biting the apple may not equal pregnancy but in all fairness, it's that temptation that gets women pg today.
also, it's putting it from another perspective...what if she's created her only earthly garden and her being pg and becoming a mother is her Eden of sorts...her paradise, kwim?
i think any mother could equate motherhood to paradise and the ultimate reward even if it's a painful journey, both in the sense that the pregnancy takes a huge toll on the body and the pain of childbirth and the fact that your life is no longer about you once you are a mother and there's no going back and yet you'd not have it any other way, would you?

Cece00 replied:
What do you mean?

paradisemommy replied: i think it would be an interesting pic but speaking only for myself - i wouldn't look or think differently of you after seeing the pic - just an expression of yourself and it sounds like a great photo..

Hillbilly Housewife replied: I also think it would be a beautiful picture! Putting the "story" aside...I think nature is, well...a natural setting to do what nature does best... continue on with life...


and in any case, didn't Adam bite the apple first?

cameragirl21 replied: Thanks, Rocky and Tammy, i am so excited to do this, i'll show you the pics when it's done.

kristy-n-chad replied:
Nope.

TheOaf66 replied:
Eve talked Adam into taking a bite after she did which is where it all started with the hubby doing what the wife wants him too no matter what

cameragirl21 replied: ok, this is so not meant to start a debate but the way i see it, we don't really know how it happened or if it happened at all, i personally believe the bible is almost entirely allegorical...i realize that for many it is taken literally.
i don't care who bit the apple first or whose fault it all was, i just love the story and as an artist, i simply want to do my own rendition.
i like the pg woman as a symbol of tempation, not to mention that the apple bitten is also symbolic of the fruit of her womb.

redchief replied: Whether Genesis, and especially the story of Adam and Eve, is allegorical or not is immaterial. Your question, I believe, was whether or not people would be offended by a picture of a pg woman and a man in the biblical setting of Adam and Eve. I think you'll find that some people will be very offended by it, while others will find it very artistic. Especially where religion and faith are concerned there is rarely middle ground, though I find myself traipsing there often. You can please some of the people some of the time but never all of the people all of the time, and fundamentalists are likely to express offense toward the picture if you decide to publish it. I think the idea is pretty awesome. Let's face it, many biblical art works are wrought with inconsistencies when compared with scriptural text. I believe they call that "artistic leave."

cameragirl21 replied:
thanks, Ed, that is exactly what i was hoping to hear.
i realize that some people will just be offended no matter what.
the thing is art always pushes the envelope, that's what makes it interesting. i just like to bounce things off the religious to get an idea of what about the art would offend them so i can keep that in mind as i conceptualize the finished product.

Our Lil' Family replied:
I'd like a clarification also.

Our Lil' Family replied: bump

mysweetpeasWil&Wes replied: I don't really have an opinion about your concept without actually seeing it. As an artist, you will always offend someone, symbolic art or not, so I say don't worry about it. How does it make YOU feel to create the piece? That's what's important IMO. And honestly, you wouldn't want to provoke the EXACT same feelings from each of your viewers, would you? Think variety. Some people will like it, some won't. Who cares....make them THINK about it, that's the cool part. I say do it and see what happens.