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I'm tired of it


MomToMany wrote: All the put downs & negative comments. And the narrowmindedness. This message board was the first one that I ever joined. I thought it was AWESOME (still do in some ways). It felt like home *most* of the time, but not really anymore. Some of you are friends, some are not. I agree with some of you, some I do not.

I guess I feel like I don't really belong here anymore, so I'm going to stick to my other boards from now on. I get too upset over some comments, and my kids see how sad I am. That's NOT GOOD.

So, farewell, good luck, and goodbye! I'm sure most will be happy for this. I can't handle it anymore. I'll go somewhere where my opinions might actually be wanted.

punkeemunkee'smom replied: Mollie~ I am very sorry you feel like this! I do not agree with everyone here either...but I don't agree with everyone I know IRL! I don't in anyway think people are attacking you or your way of parenting! Somethings are just disagreed with as a group...this whole EC thing is not the first debate I have ever seen on here. The beauty of our friendships is the ability to state opinions and keep going. I am sorry you feel the desire to leave! I am sure you will be missed even by those who don't always agree with you! sad.gif

mom2tripp replied: Sorry you feel that way---I think we all like that we can disagree on one subject and laugh and joke with each other on the next--hope you find message board that you are happy with


Edited to say: It's not narrowmindness or attacks it's jut our opinions just like yours!

Sarah&Mackenzie replied: I am sorry your leaving, though I have no idea what this is all about.

coasterqueen replied: Oh Mollie. I really hate to see you go. I was so sad you went the first time. I truly do value your opinions, but you have to be willing to hear other opinions that don't go along with yours as well. I agree that some may not say them in the most appropriate manner, and sometimes that is me. I apologize for that. I hope you don't think I was doing that with the EC post. I was just stating that EC is the most environmentally friendly out of all of them, even if I don't like EC.

IMO if I belonged to a board that only valued a certain opinion, I'd never learn anything in this lifetime. Granted I was (still am sometimes) a part of a BF board, but I do so to help others successfully breastfeed, not to debate the issues for or against it. Although I must confess I did a lot of that in the beginning on that board, but I've grown and come to determine that even though I might think MY ways are the RIGHT ways happy.gif they aren't for everyone and I'm not going to be able to change them. That's just a fact of life. So when I'm on boards I give my opinions, try to do so the kindest I can, but know that I'm going to get differing opinions. I just blurt out my "defending" opinions to the computer screen since I can't type them. laugh.gif cool.gif

Please don't go. I think the lesson to be learned by everyone is that we all have opinions, we should be able to express them here, know that not everyone values our opinions but that some may, and that we should express them in the kindest way possible. Right?

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Insanemomof3 replied: OMG! Don't leave us! sad.gif I think you are a great mommy, and I admire you for being able to do all that you do. I never had the patience to have more kids, or cloth diaper or anything. I really really admire you for that. I am too lazy sad.gif

I will miss you a lot. I don't know what has happened to make you feel this way, but I really wish you would change your mind.

Boys r us replied: I'm sorry that you feel like you have to leave.

I am sorry that there can't be a balance between light hearted and heavy hearted conversations. I know how passionate you are about so many things surrounding raising children and that's a wonderful thing, but there are so many other conversations that happen here everyday that are light hearted and help all of us bond together. It's just like in real life, if the conversations my DH and I had were on things we had complete opposite opinions on and that was it..well we probably wouldn't be married anymore b/c I couldn't deal with constant bickering and that's surely not a great way to build and keep a friendship. So we have to make sure we have good times too and that we talk about not only the things we are passionately opinionated on..but also everyday life. Samething here, it's fine for any of us to be opinionated about anything..even strongly opinionated and to disagree...but it helps when we all participate in more threads than just the really heavy ones...b/c the light, fun, everyday posts are like the bandaids that heal the disagreements!

Anyhow..good luck!

A&A'smommy replied: Mollie I'm VERY sorry I hope that I didn't make you feel that way but I'm sure in the last thread I did and i really didn't mean it that way. I really shouldn't have agreed with one point. I have ALWAYS found your way of parenting useful, interesting and wonderful. Some of it i have wanted to try and not been able to or some of it I found a little to much for ME as a person but wonderful that you are doing it (or interested in it). ITA with what Karen said.. IF you do think that you still need to go please don't loose contact with me I have always valued your "cruchiness" as you call it (which I never heard it called that until you said so lol) and will definitly need LOTS Of help in the future. hug.gif hug.gif

CantWait replied: I don't really know why you're leaving, although I'm sorry to see you go.

We're all here to learn from eachother, even if we sometimes don't agree, or frankly sometimes don't really care. I hope that you change your mind. Best of Luck. hug.gif

kimberley replied: Mollie, i am sorry it has come to this for you sad.gif you have so much to offer this board and it would be a shame to see you leave.

Maddie&EthansMom replied:
I feel exactly the same way. sleep.gif sad.gif

luvbug00 replied: Mollie, I just had to pop in and say please don't leave. your parenting style is refreshing and I was learning so much about Cloth dipering and I really hope you either take some time and return or just stay. I wish you all the best in your choise.

mysweetpeasWil&Wes replied: Mollie, no one has ever said that your opinions weren't wanted. I know that you and I don't always agree on things and that we both have said hurtful things toward one another at times, but I have never once felt that I didn't want you here. I have learned that through all the differences we've shared on this board, we all have one common goal....TO BE GOOD PARENTS!! And to me, I'm friends with anyone who shares that common goal. hug.gif So please don't go, but I support you if that's what you feel is the right thing to do.

gr33n3y3z replied:
I agree with Kimberley
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Even tho my kids are alot older I still learn alot from you

aspenblue1 replied:
ITA!

MyLuvBugs replied: Mollie - What happened?? Are you ok? hug.gif Did someone trash talk you or something? hug.gif

Sweetie please don't let ANYONE's comments, opinions or posts get to you like this. Your opinion matters, and so what if others disagree with you. That's life! If we all had the same voice, opinions, and thoughts the world would be a VERY boring place don't ya think? smile.gif Please don't leave just because someone had a differing opinion, and if someone was mean to you get mean right back or send a PM to one of the message board moderators. We're all here to help each other and be supportive. hug.gif It'll be ok. Please don't go.... sad.gif

~KARA~ replied: MOLLIE
Now you know Why I asked how to have my account deleted last week!!!

Kaitlin'smom replied: hug.gif sorry you feel this way. I will miss you bawling.gif It to bad peopel can let others have there opinion, I tell you in some disscussion I have bit my my toung )ok really just kept my finers from typing) what i really want to say and have been ofened many times but each person is different and unique, some can handle that and others can't. I hope you find a place you like and hope you do stay, you will be missed.

redchief replied: I'm sorry you're feeling unwanted or unappreciated, Mollie. I hope the number of posts here asking you to change your mind will give you pause to rethink. I enjoy everyones' opinions even though we don't agree on many things. I've also been accurately called a "conservative butthead" and other less desireable names. I try and keep my posts on topic, but would be lying if I said I didn't occasionally submit a sarcastic or ignorant remark. I've not yet read "the EC post" everyone is talking about, so I'm saying this off the cuff and without knowledge of exactly what was said to cause you to feel unwelcome. I did that on purpose, because, IMO, none of us has any cause to make anyone feel unwelcome regardless of the topic.

I also reserve the right to disagree with any and all (if necessary) opinions expressed by any other adult, but I agree and I'm glad that the moderators, for the most part, insist, that personal attacks are not permitted. Again, Mollie, I value your opinion whether I agree with it or not. Philisophical differences are what make the world such a great place, and what keep our civilization as a whole from canting to any extreme. Good luck whether you stay or go. Mostly, do what makes you happy. smile.gif

3xsthefun replied: Mollie, please don't go. sad.gif

I don't always agree with somethings people say either. But sometimes that is when we have to say "we just have to agree to disagree", I really wish you would change your mind.

DansMom replied: Mollie, I am one who, probably too silently, appreciates what you believe in and what you stand up for on this board. I think the board will be less complete without your point of view.

Hillbilly Housewife replied:
Very well said Tracy.... couldn't have said it better myself!!!

Mollie - I think that people who don't agree with your opinions should accept that they are your opinions, not theirs....

I don't always agree with something you are passionate about - but I'm willing to have an open mind about a lot of things.

You add a lot to this board. You live a lifestyle that unfortunately a lot of us parents don't have the time, the patience, or the independance to even want to think about, and I admire you for sticking so vehemently to what you believe in.

You're always ready to hand out information on which you've based your personal choices... which I find remarkable, because you are one of the precious few who go through so much trouble to help someone understand what you are standing up for.

Please don't go. hug.gif

Maddie&EthansMom replied:
Yes, very well said. hug.gif

redchief replied:
Agreed... Even with a closed mind on a given topic, it is incumbent upon all of us to respect others' opinions. Opinions are a window to the soul. It is possible to hurt another's soul by devaluing their opinion, since opinions often are much more personal than a simple difference in outlook. In matters of morality and right vs. wrong, I know I've come on strong and possibly hurt others' souls, but I try not to.

Mollie, I can't promise that I'll never hurt your or anyone else's feelings here. I can only promise to try not to. I want to believe that no one WANTED to hurt your feelings, but I can't judge other people that way either. I can say that most of the regular posters on this board respect and welcome your opinion. This is, indeed, the first time I've actually directed a protracted comment to any of the members in an open forum. I do this because I feel your perspective adds value to the discussion on nearly every topic you post on.

ions_momma replied: Mollie, Im not exactly sure what all of this is about because I havent been around for a few days, but I wish you would stay! I really value your opinions on things. Well, I just want you to know that you will be missed! hug.gif

MomToMany replied: hug.gif Thanks for the hugs & positive thoughts. I'll still be taking a break from this board. I'll keep my account active, but won't be posting since it just upsets everyone. I might come back, I might not.

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TLCDad replied: Oh Mollie, I do hope you come back. I know for a fact your experience is very much wanted here. I know there will always be discussions where people do not agree with each other but that is one thing that makes boards like this work. Unlike most boards we are heavily moderated in the sense that we do not allow heated debates especially when they get personal. We do allow long discussions especially when someone could learn something from them in a positive way.

I have not read this EC thread yet, but please know, that you can always let a mod or myself know when something is getting out of hand.

PrairieMom replied: In the short time i have been comming to this board I have grown to enjoy your input. We don't all have to agree with each other, Just learn!
I hope you come back!

holley79 replied: I am kind of in the dark about what is going on here. I am saddened to see this happen. Mom I hope that you will change you mind. If you don't then please at least stay in touch with some of us. hug.gif I guess I need to not go away for a day or so. sad.gif


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