I can't BELIEVE she did this!! - Ms. Perfect...Kate Gosselin

Crystalina wrote: She drinks that RIGHT IN FRONT OF MADDY who keeps saying she's thirsty. Then instead of giving water to her daughter she drinks it herself! I can't even say what I think of her right now. I used to defend her but she's just awful!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjohryb6xAU...haxa_popt00us13

I love Maddy in this video. Although she comes across as a brat you have to realize all the nonsense she gets put through. She is going to resent her mother for this. You can already see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_eClYq-QVI...re=channel_page

CantWait replied: That's just awful, and the way she's acting, "sit down, sit down, be quiet"......... those kids couldn't be being more well behaved. They're being forced into interview after interview, how much does she expect them to sit down, be quiet, and not be kids???

And as for Mady, brat yes, but look where she gets it from. Not only that she was asked a question and gave an honest answer, can't punish a kid for that.

Kentuckychick replied: Yes, I think that they're having to do interviews is ridiculous, but really... she wasn't doing anything more than I've seen parents with that many kids - and less! - do every single sunday at church tp get their children to sit down. At first when she took a sip of the water I thought it was like many mothers do just to get it down away from the very top before giving it to the child and then she thought better and said she would be getting the kids drinks as soon as they gave her the cups... nothing wrong there. If she had given Mady a drink from the bottle then she would have had to have passed the bottle from one child to every single child and having them all end up with water down the front of themselves she simply waiting what who knows, may have been all of 2 more minutes was the easier thing to do.

And then there's the fact that Mady was whining... and I know when I was younger and whined like that my mother almost always (like 95% of the time) ignored me too.

I think people are just finding things to pick on now.

luvmykids replied: I think I agree with Rachel, she took one swig and put her bottle down and asked for cups...not like she was chugging it down and being mean about it, and told them someone was getting them drinks.

Crystalina replied: Yeah but Maddy asked for a drink first. She said she hadn't had a drink ALL day. Do I believe that she had not had a drink ALL day? No I don't. Kid's always exagerate (sp?) when comes to things like that. But what irks me is that Kate agrees with her and says, "yeah, me too. That's a good idea." Then asks for water for herself. I'm sorry. But if my children were asking for water (and I totally understand the whole 'kids will drip and we're in an interview and with that many kids it could take awhile to pass it around' thing BUT I would never drink in front of my kids if I knew they were thirsty. If I tell my kids to wait then I will wait as well. I would not say that they have to wait until after the interview yet sip water in front of them myself. I agree that adults can and should do things that kids do not. I'm not about putting my self on the same level as the children but a simple thing like water...yeah, I would wait with them.

stella6979 replied:
Kate's just a selfish $%#@&. It's always about her no matter what. Just how it is.

cameragirl21 replied: Idk, when I'm with children, it doesn't matter how hungry or thirsty I am, they get fed and watered first. I can think of many occasions when I've been out and about with kids or when I threw kids a party and I was tired and hungry and I'm hypoglycemic so it's really a problem for me and I patiently fed all the kids first before taking a bite, even if I felt I was about to faint.
She could have given each of the kids a sip of her water and then politely asked for more if she wanted some.
As for the whining, I'd be whining too if I were paraded around like a circus animal for the world's entertainment.
As I've said previously, I'm against the circus because it's mean to animals and I'm against turning children into a circus act too. They're kids, they're not meant to sit still and give interviews, can't blame them for wanting to just be kids.
I'm starting to think though, based on what I've read about both Gosselin parents that they totally deserve each other.
Sadly, their kids deserve better.

mckayleesmom replied: Ok...I'm not Kates biggest fan..or not fan either, but she did ask for cups and then they must have signaled that they were going on air.

mckayleesmom replied: Mady is hilarious in this interview. The part where she said that one of the kids needed a scolding reminded me of Mckaylee. She is always throwing Russell under the train.

julesmom replied: Did you hear Maddy say you drank it right in front of my face?
Kate should NOT have had a drink. If Maddy had to wait, Kate should've waited too.

The second clip, just imagine how much trouble she got in when she got home for being so outspoken.

A&A'smommy replied: oh goodness regardless of if I like her or not she is going to have BIG problems with them when they are teenagers and I really think she needs to take a time out from tv and just been with her family for a while they NEED her more than they need her money

coasterqueen replied: All I'm going to say is I feel for these children. I really do. I know how my kids are, and I just can't imagine any child wanting to live in front of a camera or be put in the limelight as much as they are. My kids want my attention 24/7 when I'm with them.

Crystalina replied:
Yep,right on!


Not only that, what is WRONG with the kids drinking water during an interview? If I watched the interview and each kid had a sippy cup or water bottle in their hand drinking here and there I would not look at my t.v. and think, "How dare they give those kids water during an interview!" They are kids! If I were kate I would ask for a cup for all the kids and if she has to be watching them while drinking (even though I'm not sure why she would have to. They are 5 now! Water bottles should be ok for them. ) then she needs to talk and watch the kids at the same time. Isn't she a self-proclaimed awesome multi-tasker? She can't talk and make sure the kids aren't having a water fight at the same time?

luvbug00 replied: don't watch the show anymore..only caught thier first few episodes and i disliked the way kate treated her husband..Glad i stopped watching. this woman from te clip i saw on another site showing this interview was just jaw dropping. I would never drink b4 my kids did.

jcc64 replied: Is it possible that maybe the kids had just had a drink, and were just asking for one b/c that's what kids do when they know their parents are distracted? I can tell my kids 42 times before we get in the car to go somewhere, "Have a drink now so you're not thirsty once we leave the house," and invariably, one of them will be asking to "stop for a drink" somewhere before we're to the end of my block. Why do I have to go buy a bottle of water, create more plastic garbage, pay $$$ for something I get for free at home, etc....They've been told this a million times by now. So, if I were being filmed by TLC at that precise moment, I would be heard telling my kids that they can't have a drink, and then some person with an agenda of their own could post it on Youtube to make the point about what a horrible, heartless person I am.
I don't pretend to understand Jon and Kate's motivations, but I think we all need to back off and realize none of us are perfect, and there are TONS of children who have survived less than perfect parenting, myself and my own included. Enough with the media pile on already.

Crystalina replied:
I understand your point but here's the deal. If she didn't want the media "pile on" then why does she continue to shove her kids in front of a camera? Even though the show seems to be less about the kids now and more about her and that awful hairdo.

And I'm sorry but Maddy made the statement that she had not had a drink ALL day. I don't believe that is true but I do believe she was thirsty enough to think that. She's 8 (or somewhere around that age). I think she would know when she's thirsty and not like the younger kids who would want a drink just because the next kid has one.

cameragirl21 replied: I think, simply put, if she got a drink for herself, she should have shared with the kids, even if that meant that everyone just got one sip till the water was gone. I get that kids sometimes ask for things because they're bored or whatever but if she was thirsty enough to ask for a drink then probably the kids were also.
If no one got a drink, I'd see it differently but I can't fathom how she took a swig and then put the rest of the bottle out of the kids' reach and field of vision.
I get that it's not fair to judge from afar but I have to say that they put themselves, just as the Duggars did, in the media spotlight so they should expect these sorts of things.

jem0622 replied: I can't even watch. I don't watch much TV. She & John disgust me.

A&A'smommy replied: my true opinon is that we should keep our opinions to ourselves leave them alone and let her live her life and deal with their own repercussions (sp?) when she has too. I think really she is doing all of this for the money for her kids

Crystalina replied:
My problem is not that she's doing this for the money. Kate grew up without money so of course she's going to want to give her kids the moon. What mother wouldn't want that and do what she has to to accomplish that. My problem is that if the kids (the older ones especially) want a bit of time without the cameras then they should get it. They are her kids but at the same time they are their own people and are at the age where they may not want everything they do out there. She should respect that. Maddy has said several times she does not like the cameras. At what point does Kate do her job as a mother and step in and say, "Maddy is off limits for awhile until she's ready." I'm sure the audience would understand.
I realize the cameras are only there certain months of the year and not there year round but do we know when we are going to have an off day before it happens? No. So Maddy can't schedule her mood swings with the TLC time slot. She's 8. My 8 yr old will go from happy to cranky as crap in a split second and she wants her privacy. I know where Maddy is coming from because I'm dealing with a girl just like her.
I could care less if she puts her kids out there but I would think she (of all people) would know when her kids needed a break. Even if it's just for one show or a few scenes from a show. If my 8 yr old wanted down time or the cameras to leave then I would side with my child.

A&A'smommy replied:
don't get me wrong I agree with you completely its not really fair for them to be spending SO much time in the spotlight and my guess is maddy really just wants some normalcy what child wouldn't after spending most of her life the limelight just because she has 6 brothers and sisters that were born at the same time. To me it seems like she resents them for and I'm thinking thats pretty normal.

CantWait replied:
Forgetting all view points aside, would this rule not apply to Kate as well than?

Danalana replied: I haven't watched the show much...maybe 3 times, since it debuted. I have done a lot of reading about them, though. I didn't watch the videos, but I can just imagine. Eyewitnesses report that Kate is very much a diva and not very patient with her kids at all. Old classmates say that she has always been demanding and on the rude side...wanting to be in the spotlight. I know people can change, but that's exactly how she acts on television. A staff person at some eatery said she ordered ONE TEASPOON of cheececake and ONE TEASPOON of banana pudding (or somethign like that), and "it better not be more!" Weird...
I do feel sorry for the kids. Jon and Kate make $50,000-$75,000 an episode, so it's not like they are hurting for money. The tummy tuck she had after the sextuplets were born was gratis. I completely understand wanting to provide for your kids, but how much does it take?
Jon refutes the notion that the kids are exploited, even though he has grown weary of the cameras. I don't really understand that. One of the older kids has even said she doesn't like the cameras coming on all their vacations, etc..
I just wonder how much longer America will want to watch this train wreck. When the news broke that Jon had left a bar with a female, the audience for the season premier was larger than the season premier of 'Lost'.

my2monkeyboys replied: It seems I read somewhere recently that the ratings for the show has dropped dramatically. Hopefully that's a sign that "we" are tired of watching these poor kids go through all this garbage and are deciding not to take part. I don't know, but I hope for the kids that is true. Maybe TLC will take a hint and pull the plug. I'm sure there is some other family waiting in line for their own "reality" show.

I do not like what I see Kate to be. I think she is a self-centered person who did not SEEM to be like that when all this first started.

As for the clip, who knows what really just happened - Maddy may have just been wanting attention, or she may have been genuinely thirsty. Either way Kate should have shared the water or just not brought it out... I'm sure hindsight is 20/20 though.

jcc64 replied:

Not totally sure I understand your question. Do you mean that Kate should turn off the cameras, interviews, etc....? My answer to this would be an emphatic yes--it's clear everyone (other than she) needs a break. But not sure that's what you were asking????

CantWait replied:
I mean that if the kids are to grab a drink before leaving the house, than should Kate always grab a drink before leaving the house...why is ok for her to have a drink at that moment, but not for the children?

MommyToAshley replied: I don't really watch the show, and I am no fan of Kate's, but it looked like to me that she asked for water, they handed her one, and she asked for glasses for the kids. I think she thought there was time to get the glasses of water for the kids before they went on the air, but was told at the last minute, no time, we're going on air. So, I think I would cut her some slack on this one.

With that said, I think I would probably give Ashley a drink before I drank any myself... If we go to eat at a buffet or cook-out, I help her get her food first. If we get ice cream somewhere, I make sure she is settled with hers before I take a bite of mine. If we come inside from playing, I get her a glass of water and then pour mine. Just seems natural to me.

mckayleesmom replied:
This is what I was thinking. It didn't look like she purposely deprived Mady. She asked for cups and thought she would get a minute to pour them some water. Then she realized they were going on air.

cameragirl21 replied: I just want to add that I don't think Kate was purposely trying to deprive her kids of a drink or be malicious but I do think it's rather odd that she'd get a drink for herself before giving it to the kids. To me it seems very against the natural order of things.

PrairieMom replied: I didn't read all the responses, but i did watch the video.
I do this all the time. I wouldn't have given them anything either. Once you give one water, then they will all decide they are thirsty, they were probably under time constraint since they were waiting to be interviewed. Maybe she was nervous and had dry mouth? who knows.

you want an example of a evil / bad mother? My kids weren't allowed snacks since they didn't eat their dinner the night before or their lunches. I baked chocolate chip cookies, and didn't let them have one. The whole house smelled so good, and I even tested one.
They ate their dinner that night.

luvmykids replied:
I am evil too, then

jcc64 replied: This was my point earlier. Add me to the evil mother list, then.

MommyToAshley replied: Add me to the evil Mom list too. I wouldn't have a problem keeping a cookie from Ashley if she didn't eat her dinner/lunch, but I would probably have a hard time eating one in front of her if she wasn't allowed to have one.

luvmykids replied:
Then you are far less evil than me....just because they're in trouble doesn't mean I should suffer Just kidding, kinda If they couldn't eat something due to illness or allergies, I'd definitely give it up right along with them.

CantWait replied: I'm evil too, so evil that Anthony didn't get a treat on Mommy / buddy night cause he let his breakfast go to waste earlier in the day.

stella6979 replied: I don't know, it's one thing to withhold something due to being punished or whatever, but to be mean just because is another. She's a bully, but that's JMO.

moped replied: I am the most eveil mom on the list........I didn't like what I saw Kate do and I wouldn't do that, but for punishment reasons I am the MOST evil!

cameragirl21 replied: Idk, I think there is a big difference between not allowing cookies as a form of punishment for not eating a meal vs keeping a kid from having water when s/he is thirsty.
In my experience, kids who are not really thirsty but just want "something" ask for kool-aid, lemonade, chocolate milk, etc, the way I could always tell if they're truly thirsty if by offering them water and if they don't want it, then they're not truly thirsty, just want something sweet, like soda, or they just want attention.
The way I see it, if a kid asks for water, s/he must really be thirsty and I think it's wrong to keep a kid from having it and the fact that they were about to go on the air is imo not a good excuse...if it were my kids, they'd wait till everyone was no longer thirsty to go on the air. The need to go on the air is imo part of Kate and the children's warped little world. And that imo, is where the problem lies.

Cece00 replied:
I'm with Tara, I do this too.

My kids could have JUST had a big glass of "insert drink here" and if they see me with water, will ask for water.

So in my experience, with 4 kids and all, yeah, they ask for water even when they arent that thirsty.

Plus, when you have mulitple kids, and one gets something, they alllllll want it too.

She asked for cups and wanted to give them a drink. She didnt want to pass a water bottle to 8 kids. My kids are much more messy with a water bottle than a cup of water.

I really didnt see the clip as being a huge deal. I could see myself doing that, and not because i'm "such a mean mom" but because my kids can wait a second so I can get it taken care of for all of them.

I cant tell you how many times I will offer my kids a snack, and they say no. Then one will come to me and want a snack. I get the kid a snack. Other 3 kids see 1st kid with snack, suddenly here comes another, oh and then another, etc. So I can do it all @ once, or 4 times.

Sometimes in the mornings on the way to drop my kids off, I will take a drink and have it in the car. The kids might ask for a sip...I tell them to wait until I stop the car, because I'm not passing a cup/bottle around a moving car between 4 kids in 2 rows in a minivan. But I'm still going to drink my drink...and when the car stops, my kids can all have a drink too. Them having to wait a couple of minutes isnt going to hurt them. Sometimes I have to wait a minute for something *I* want too.

And I know I'm not a bad mother. So I'm not going to say she was being one for this situation.

Crystalina replied: I'm not sure why you guys are saying she asked for cups for her children. She NEVER asked for cups for them. This is exactley what was said...

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Maddy: Mom, I'm going to get dehydrated. I haven't had a drink all day.

Kate: Yes, me to.

Maddie: Ugh! (puts her head in her hand)

Kate: That's true. Could I...Could I have a bottle....is there time to throw a bottle of water at me? Thanks.

(Kate responds to whoever is talking in her ear as she's drinking the water. Meanwhile Maddy says, "OH, Your sooo lucky!" Maddy stares at her mother the entire time she's drinking the water.
Kate puts the water next to her on the floor.)

Kate: After this...After this one Judy...Judy will somehow manage to get drinks in here for you. (speaking to all the kids)

Did? ...we brought the Olive Garden cups?
Hey, sit down please...sit down. We're interviewing be quiet.

Maddy: You're really really mean.

Kate: be quiet.

Maddy: You took a drink right in front of my face.

Kate: Here (as she blindly reaches for the water and giving up just as quick) We can't right now, we're going on.

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So yes, Kate did indeed mention cups but had no intention of sharing water with the kids until afterward. IMO she should have waited as well.

Kentuckychick replied: Somehow I'm thinking the new magazine photos of her "Hitting" (read; spanking) Leah for disobeying her are going to be far more controversial than this whole water debacle.

I think she REALLLY needs to remove herself and her children from the spotlight quickly before things get way too out of hand.

my2monkeyboys replied:
I absolutely agree.

Danalana replied:
Oh, of course! You can't discipline your children, after all

my2monkeyboys replied: Personally I think a swat on the butt can get a point across when nothing else will, but if it isn't something Jon or Kate does, then Kate spanking her daughter probably does show some cracks developing. I really hope they pull out of the spotlight soon... it's just so sad.

stella6979 replied:
I recently read that an former employee was saying that she "beat" them regularly with a wooden spoon and was constantly yelling and screaming in their faces. Whether or not that's true, I have no idea, just something I read.

Kentuckychick replied:
Somehow I think if that were "constantly" happening then TLC would have had to have stepped in. And I also think that it would have been caught on film before now. And also if indeed there were someone who was seeing that then that "former employee" should have said something to someone.

Up until that time I had seen mostly the kids being disciplined by being sent to the "naughty spot" in the corner of their living room by the door or on the step outside... and there were plenty of times that I probably would have yelled (biting/kicking/hitting incidents) when Kate managed perfectly well to hold her tongue.

And of course I'm not saying she never spanks her kids or yells at them because I'm not there... but it seems funny how anytime something like this madness occurs in the media all of these people from the past start throwing accusatory fingers.

I have no problem with spanking (and was even spanked with a wooden spoon a time or two as a child - it hurt no worse than being spanked with a hand). But I do have to wonder if frustration isn't building up for Kate. I know it would be for me and that's why I think it's high time to step away.

stella6979 replied:
Oh, I absolutley agree. If it was happening why didn't this person say anything sooner? Although with as mad as I've seen Kate get, it wouldn't surprise if it did happen. It's definitely time to step away.

Crystalina replied: I have no problem with her or anyone else spanking their kids. SPANKING not beating. And if you spank all the time I think you have more issues then just a bad kid. That is just my opinion.
I saw the picture of Kate spanking one of the girls and of course the pics looked bad but you have to realize they are continuous shots. They show 3 or 4 pictures of the incident that very well could have only been one swat on the butt.

In my opinion some kids are not spanked enough. (Enough meaning at least one spank to introduce them to what they will not like) My kids are spanked on very rare ocassions. They don't like it and they remember it for next time which is why it doesn't happen often. If I had to put a # on it I'd say my kids have been spanked about 5 times in their life. The threat of a spank is good enough. I see kids all the time who's parents "don't believe" in spanking and their kids are holy terrors! I've also seen where kids who only get time out are angels so I guess it depends on the family.

Spanking I can uderstand.
Drinking in front of your kid is not a MAJOR thing but would it really have hurt her to give her daughter a sip if she were to take one? It's almost like she was saying that quenching her thirst was more important then her daughters. As a matter of fact...Kate didn't even say SHE was thirsty unil Maddy mentioned it so I don't see how she's any better then the little kids who would have wanted a drink just because someone else wanted one.

Edited for clarification on "Kids are not spanked enough..."

stella6979 replied:
I agree. She was clearly taunting Maddy and that's just flat out mean. Way to bully an 8 year old Kate!